REI-outlet has got there Womens Sub Kilo + 15 degree bags on Sale!! This is a super nice down bag and makes a Great Top Quilt and its light. The long weighs around 2 lbs and the reg. is even less. The reg. is $139 & the Long is $149 If you need a Top Quilt this is the way to go! Just saying who cares if it a womens bag !! My wife has got one and this bag is thick! Lots of down! I just notice they got mens on sale too! 20 degree same price!