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Didn't see this posted here so thought I would.Nice video with mny different ways to hem. Of course this is in nice Sailrite fabric that doesn't slide all over the place, but the techniques are the same. Does anyone use double stick tape for hemming?
http://www.sailrite.com/Hem-Construc...chniques-Video
Thanks for the link Big Jim Mac. I've never used double sided tape for fear of it gumming up my needle and causing problems. Ramblinrev says it's not a good idea to use tape where it can be sewn thru. I enjoyed the video and learned a few things.
Well, I just found a post from DemostiX about double sided basting tapes. So I may be wrong or ignorant about the type of tapes used.
Here's the post http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=58366
Ok - on a link provided by DemostiX, there is a note to clean the needle if gumming occurs. I understand better now about basting tapes. Hopefully, some experts will come along and comment.
http://www.sailrite.com/Seamstick-1-...ng-Tape-60-Yds
I've used basting tapes before and I've gotten some on the needle but I just cleaned it off and moved forward, it didn't make a birds nest or anything. The thing with basting tapes for sil is that the silicone based tapes are pretty expensive and the standard tapes won't stick to sil so you're prolly better off (financially) to just pin or clamp etc.
I use standard plastic Scotch tape (suggestion from the wife) and it holds my stuff together beautifully and has never gummed my needle, much less my workings.
That's waay too simple. No good at all.:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by bowl-maker
I've started another thread in DIY on reinforcing the ridge line and hem. Sailrite, which is a established DIY house of long standing and high reputation, claims their strong sails of seam tape are for two advantages: Helping to seal the seams in covers, mostly made of much heavier Sunbrella fabric, which require heavier thread, larger needles, and larger holes, and to help DIYers in the handling of the fabric for sewing.
AFIK, most canvasworkers are not sewing sil-nylon. Which I just confirmed doesn't adhere to
cheapo cellophane adhesive tape
premium J&J surgical tape
premium 3M Scotch Blue Painter's Tape (medium adhesion)
Disappointing, if that is the last word!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Redoleary
Man, skill development without a tutor is time-consuming!!!
How about, Red, tagging? No experience whatever with them, but the guns and supplies are no longer expensive. I have the impression that a person might tag together yards and yards of seams and hems in just a minute, as fast as a master-baster could by hand with needle and thread, and the removing the tags all at once at the end would be fast and easy. But, just speculation or wishing on my part. I see them promoted by fabric stores.
I don't think its the last word, but for me the return on investment just isn't there. I could probably barrette together a tarp ridgeline seam faster than I could tape it and I can do it cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by DemostiX
I have no experience with tagging at all. I have stapled fabric together making sails and thats effective. Slows ya down a bit pulling staples but its not bad, not really practical for a tarp tho'.
Just checked with Sailrite. Per Title, their sailmaker said none of the tapes they sell for seams, strengthening, aligning, or further water-resisting them, will adhere to silnylon.
Thanks for all the info, guys.
Just did some research on tagging - I have looked at a youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gHz8h4kTA and haven't the foggiest idea how to get it to hold a seam together. Is this the same tagging as you mentioned DemoStix?
Yeah, I know. Thats why you have to have expensive silicone based tapes.Quote:
Originally Posted by DemostiX
That's not a basting gun. The bating barbs are only about 1/8" at longest and hold fabrics really well. The real basting guns use very small needles and don't leave big holes. It adds a step of removing the barbs after sewing and on a tarp you would have more holes to seal. The barbs are really quick to take out with a skim blade and are nice to use on slippery fabrics because you don't have to stop sewing to remove them like pins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost_Biker
I personally wouldn't use one on a tarp, but I use them on plenty of other items.
What specific product do you have in mind? Is it the 3m product that is used by the fabricators of cuben articles? The 3M product Sailrite sells @ $49 per 60 yard 1" roll, "Super Seam Seal" meets the criterion of "expensive" for a home builder. But it adds <$3 for a tarp ridge line for a commercial maker. That's less than the expense or what must be charged for seam sealing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redoleary
I 'spect Pag is referring to one of these:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost_Biker
http://www.vaaardvark.com/index.cfm?...1&id=11083,356
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AVERY-DENNIS...-/260929482894
of which, at one retail outlet:
Quilters have been using Avery Basting Guns for many years now and benefit from this time-saving method of basting their quilts. The newest addition to the Avery Dennison range is the MicroStitchTM tool. This patented system features a lightweight, hand-held tool that’s reliable and easy to use, with a durable metal-feed mechanism. Its micro fasteners are better than thread, metal staples or pins, and hold fast and tight.
With the market’s smallest needle and smallest tacks, MicroStitch is also gentle on fabric. The tiny, versatile fasteners apply easily, can be sewn over and removed with a quick pull or snip. For quilters, it makes the basting process faster and easier, with tacks that are 35% smaller than other options.
(A tip to getting more hits in search for things relating to retail fabrics and joining them is to use "quilt" in the search, reflecting the popularity of that creative outlet that has not much in common TQs and UQs discussed here. Sewing shops? Nah: Quilting shops.)
Bainbridge International sells the silicone seam tape. P/N J213 and J125 for 1/2" & 3/4" respectively. I don't have my price list in front of me but it seams like it was around $16. In the grand scheme not a lot but more than I want to spend for the 10' of tape I would use per tarp. I didn't know we were discussing prices of stuff as it related to full production commercial tarps, I was thinking about these items and how they relate to a guy making one or two tarps at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by DemostiX
Ah -basting gun. Got it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6_oHLxMGRs
Thanks for the basting information, everyone.
Thanks for the much-less-expensive and new-to-me source for seam tape.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redoleary
The rest is addressed completely in my post @ 1:59:
The 3M product Sailrite sells @ $49 per 60 yard 1" roll, "Super Seam Seal" meets the criterion of "expensive" for a home builder. But it adds <$3 for a tarp ridge line for a commercial maker. That's less than the expense or what must be charged for seam sealing.
Can someone direct me to the post rg using the diluted silicone to glue baffles on Under/top quilts prior to sewing. I know I've seen this but cannot locate it.