photos hammock tent

I couln't fnd my thread sorry. Here are the photos I took today of the first pitch of the hammock tent.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2721/...d4a8aafdcf.jpg
that was my first attempt to get into it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2530/...5255488e4f.jpg ok I'm in but the head and foot of the hammock are reversed and the tent is too far down from the hammock and will need another 3 foot extension from the left where they will meet with velcro, where I will get in and out.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/...37f406c9c2.jpg
the wind is coming from the left here. You can see the triangle of mosquito net at the end partially blocked by blowing tent. Note the looped spectra climbing slings making the taut hammock ridge line and the tent ridge line above.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2684/...b2d99cd6_b.jpg
this shows how the suspension passes through a grommet in the bottom of the tent, a stick to keep the vent open and the suspension, which is taught and has a minimum 3,000 lb test everywhere. I can pull on the ridge line inside to slide up the hammock.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2702/...f4937dd633.jpg
shows hammock and suspension alone.
Jim S

Interesting concept/design.
Entry can be via a zipper installed midway.
Where do stand when you have to get out and its raining?
Can't see the grizzlies approach. :eek:;)
Probably gonna need some more ventilation??

Here's what I think will happen: moisture will condense on the inside of your tent, run down the sides, and make you and your hammock wet. Try to rig it so the tent is not touching the sides/bottom of your hammock, provide some drains, and as G said, ventilate.

It's an interesting idea, I think that G and OG are right that there are still some things to trial and error with it but it is an interesting approach. I would like to hear how it goes for you Jim. Never know at first the constrictor idea was brought to us from a new member that was experimenting with things that were new to most of us. Heck this time last year I was trying to exspiriment with climbing gear and tecniques to bring hanging into a world/system that I understood, some things worked some did not. I say try it out and share what you learn with us Jim, good, bad, and everything in between.

Paul

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Originally Posted by gargoyle

Interesting concept/design.
Entry can be via a zipper installed midway.
Where do stand when you have to get out and its raining?
Can't see the grizzlies approach. :eek:;)
Probably gonna need some more ventilation??

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Well getting out is no different than getting out of a tent, you ummm just get out. as far as ventilation goes, this is a tent that I have used in the Sierras with no condensation problems. This isn't a new tent concept, its a tested one. the only new part is hanging it around a hammock.

I live on the desert side of the cascades, this may not work for every one everywhere, but then what does? I can see a window or something in the end piece for extra air, or even just leaving it open if there isn't a bug problem.

However I despise tarps, especially big heavy tarps with lots or cords. The only reason I am interested in a hammock at all is the lava rock referred to as "the ground" is not possible to sleep on. This is a tested tent, if I find a tent space I will sleep on the ground. This whole project is an attempt to have both a hammock and a tent and a tent hammock that is pretty rain resstant and bug proof and avoiding tarps and tie out cords.

BTW the window is about 20 inches wide and 16 inches high and the whole end is window if that isn't shown clearly by the photo..
Jim S

Okay I see the end is all mesh. I'm not disrespecting your ideas I actually love the brainstorming new stuff. Please don't take it that way.

Keep at it Jim. This has potential - and it will be fun working out all the kinks. Innovation happens best when you just do it and go from there with solutions to found problems.

You're thinking outside the box... or, really, more inside the box. Keep us updated with how it goes.

Yep - and keep up the pics as you make mods. Just make sure you always have enough ventilation in there so you're not pulling plastic bag over your head! They'll have to start putting warnings on bolts of silnylon! :jj:

Definitely keep posting your results...hope you find the solution you're looking for.

I like that 1st Pic... got video of that...:lol::lol:;)

Thank you guys for your interest.:) I am nt offended by any honest opinions, I wanted them.:D
I guess this is a tent made from a tarp and as such it is a tarp over a hammock with mosquito net ends, that is closed at the bottom rather than open and staked out and the big things are that its bug proof and that it can be pitched as a tent, but then so can a tarp. I would like it more if it was strong enough to tie out the 4 corners and make a "tent in the air".
So anyway have to work on all of this and I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for putting up with an old engineer. I know there are a lot of good points for tieing the tapr over the tent in the normal way only thats not bug proof and I live in Oregon.:scared: I also realise that the more normal method creates a nice protected space under the tent. Back to the drawing board as they say...
Jim S

Jim, you can buy or make bug netting to go around your hammock 'Warbonnet or ENO'. Something also to consider about your tent. If the end is closed off and the bottom is closed off it is going to get very hot in there which will make for an unpleasant experience.

Great pictures (especially that first one!!) I can relate!!!!
do you have some way to adjust your tent over your hammock either before you get in or after your inside the hammock? Have it adjustable but still able to lock it in place, once you've got it where you want it.

TinaLouise

Some hammocks have built-in bug nets. Or you can use a tarp and a hammock sock or bug tube to accomplish it, and still have a dry place to cook and pack/unpack. Some of those concepts might help you design your project.

Jim,
From your pictures it looks like the ridgeline attaches right at the end of the hammock at the head end and about 15" or so up the support rope at the foot end. Would you get another 15" of coverage if you reversed the tent so it pulls right up to the hammock? You might need to adjust the support ropes to get the hammock angle the way you want it.

While I applaud innovation and experimentation, I'm not seeing the advantage of the "hammock tent" over a well-configured tarp.:confused:

Howdy Jim S and welcome! Glad you made it over here!

It's great to have another master tinkerer here .

Tango61

Hey all you guys, thanks for the suggestions.
It dawned on me exactly how to produce a killer bug proof breathable water tight hammock tent, that will not drip condensation on the hammock, then it dawned on me that this will revolutionise tarp camping and so unfortunately I am not prepared to release the new generation design until I can copyright it and find a manufacturer who will pay me royalties for the design.
Any tarp manufacturers out there looking for a totally new innovative product that will kick the competition's butts should contact me. Sign a confidentiality agreement with me and I will show you the design.
Jim S

WV, you are correct thank you, but it no longer matters to the third gen desin.

Beep, Sorry I can't tell you the advantages except that it would also be bug proof.
Jim S

Before you spend too much time on this project i'd suggest to you to use a hammock with integrated bugnetting and a tarp with doors or big enough to make doors just as a comparison .

Your idea is interesting but you loose dry space for cooking eating dressing packing and anything else you want to do ..
It looks like a nice winter concept to reduce weight but then using a sock you get the same benefits and a big wintertarp can be light aswell and offers a lot more space that is quite a nice bonus in wet and wintertime :scared: ...

Nevertheless i bet you'll have fun fiddling around with it and figuring out what works best:)

Reminds me of my UberTarp design back in the day. Except I had planned a removable bottom so it could be used as a regular tarp. That was about the time we all started playing with winter tarp designs. I abandoned it due to the sheer complexity of the thing. A big tarp is much better for me.