I'm seriously thinking about ordering this. It says most people can sleep down into the 30's with it. Anyone who owns this ever taken it lower than 30 degrees?
-Pex
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I'm seriously thinking about ordering this. It says most people can sleep down into the 30's with it. Anyone who owns this ever taken it lower than 30 degrees?
-Pex
i'm pretty sure brother jeffery took it down pretty low on the last ohio hang... in conjunction with a pad, though.
i got my lost river - ( same temp. rating / insulation as the jarbidge ) down to about 37F and was warm with no cold spots.
I just got mine at the beg. of december and have had it to 27 with my 20F sleeping bag as a TQ very comfy
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Originally Posted by rip waverly
Yeah I just want to get an inexpensive UQ, I just ordered the 20F Burrow from HG. I'm wondering with a pad and or my poncho liner I could cut it down under 30. Been gettin some freezing temps up in the AT here in GA.
Used mine last week In the backyard with a CCF pad beneath my feet, a 20 degree bag as a top quilt, and base layer polypropylene tops and bottoms. It got down to 31 and I was perfectly warm.....no cold spots.
Also used it two nights ago down to 33 but was inside the 20 degree bag (was expecting colder temps) and wearing two layers of insulation. Laid for a while with the bag on top of me and just the Jarbidge underneath after late night wake up call and was warm then too.
Pretty sure you can take it to 30 and probably a little below and stay warm.
Yeah with a down jacket and some leg thermals and such I could probably make it. I'm going to sleep on it!Quote:
Originally Posted by jayf124
As long as you have the 3 season you should be good. Paul did make a few 1 season Jarbridges (and I have one of each)
Thanks everyone. Probably going to order the Jarbridge within the next month sometime.
use them everyday....had the 1-S to 32F...had the 3-S to 16F...so far....waiting for winter
Question, I was looking at the Jarbridge as well...but the pack size is huge! I see its not compressed so I was wondering how it packs when compressed. That thing would eat up my pack without it.
It is pretty big when it's inside the stuff sack....as to be expected since it has synthetic fill. Not sure how small you could get it with a compression sack though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deadphans
Compression bag and strap to outside of pack.
I honestly don't know which one I have bit it's the one that was on sale at the end of the summer (camo/coyote). New years eve I took down into the mid thirties and got a bit chilly. But.......this IS my first year camping from a hammock. I had on cabelas down long underwear but only a regular coleman mummy bag as a top quilt. I think the main reason I got chilled is because I didn't pitch my tarp properly to block the wind. I got up at 330 am and remedied that problem. Nice and toasty after that
Sounds like you have the 3 season model as the 1 Season is only rated to about 50.
Think I'm going to order one finally.
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Originally Posted by bob2guns
update.....low of 11F w/JARBRIDGE 3-S .....low of 9F w/NEWRIVER
worked well w/25 F rated bag and no extras ....
AHE ratings are on the conservative end i think....
That is impressive
think i'll start calling mine 1+S and 3+S Jarbridges
I just got my Jarbridge today and get to use it next week on a 10 day field training exercise. I couldn't really find any info on maintenance and I didn't want to start a new thread. Do I have to store it flat when not in use (storage) like other UQs, how do I clean it, and what if for whatever reason my tarp fails and it gets wet? thank you for putting up with a most likely noob question.
Nothing wrong with staring a new thread.
I have the Summer Jarbridge River. It is just like the regular Jarbridge River, but it is made with 3 oz Climashield rather than the standard 6 oz product. It weights in at 13.4 oz, and I have taken this quilt as is down to 41°, and with thin supplemental ⅛" pad, I have been comfortable at around 30°. This is my goto UQ for 8 months of the year, and I plan on using this anytime the forecast low is over 45°. It packs down plenty small (nerf football sized); I imagine the regular JR is a bit bulkier. FWIW, I am 6' 1", and the ⅞ length quilt suits me fine in the range I use this quilt. :)
Care is easy. Hook it up, use it, pack it up, <repeat as needed for additional nights>, take it home, hang it up to air out (a couple of days as needed), store loosely (I use a pillow case).
Let me know if you have any other questions. :shades:
Thank you for the reply. I got the 3-season and it comes with a stuff sack. It's a lot bigger than I thought and unfortunately I already have my bags packed in put in the shipping container. Luckily, I have my assault bag handy that I can store last minute items in and I'll probably use my UQ as a pillow on the bus ride there. This will be my first big trip using my hammock so I'm pretty excited. I'll take some pictures and share when I can.
Couple of quick suggestions...
Snug your quilt much tighter than you would probably guess. Without you in it, it will lift up your hammock and may be up to 2' off the ground.
Once I am in the hammock (with the quilt attached) I reach under the hammock and test the height. I spread my pinkie and thumb as far apart as I can, and use hold this under the hammock. If I am just barely touching the ground, I am good.
Don't be afraid to get out of the hammock and loosten or tighten things up to get just the perfect lay. It may take a few tries to get it right the first few times. Remember, the hammock straps should angle roughtly 30° down coming off the tree to the hammock. Use your pointer and thumb (like a kid making a gun) and have the pointer parallel to the ground (level), and this will give you a real good approximation of 30°.
There's more, but you will need to figure it out for yourself.
Have fun!
I've slept in my hammock for 2 nights so far, but I can't seem to keep my UQ from sliding side to side, especially when I go to lay on my side. My hammock has the shock cord lines on each side to help widen and stablize the hammock but it is keeping the UQ from hugging up on the hammock past that point. Any suggestions?
Take a look at Dutch's quilt hooks. http://www.outdoortrailgear.com/feat...e-quilt-hooks/Quote:
Originally Posted by Airborne Trooper
Lots of great feedback about those here on the forums too. Here a recent thread that talks about them. http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=50690
Hope this helps.
AATW! RLTW!
Jay
I will definitely check that out when I get back home. I have another 6 or 7 days sleeping out here in the field so I'd like to find a remedy for this I can do without any more accessories. Should I just not use the side tie outs from the hammock?
Couldn't hurt to try. I notice less quilt movement on my WBBB when I don't use the side tie-outs. The wider your tie-outs are the "flatter" your hammock will be and it won't allow your quilt to wrap around you (and stay put) as easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airborne Trooper
Thanks! I am going to go mess around with it. I'll try to post some pictures sometime today.
Someone in another thread mentioned attaching a short loop of shock cord to the corner of the quilt near the tie outs and running your tie out line through it to hold the quilt in place.
I tried it and it seems to have helped on mine. I toss and turn a lot in my sleep and would wake up with the entire uq folded in half on one side of the hammock before I did this, and have not had that happen again.
Ragnall
I just tightened up the UQ to lift the hammock a feet or two higher as read in other posts. I loosened up the tension on the tie-outs and it seems better. I can try to do like ragnall said but I only have 550 cord (paracord) to my disposal. Here's a few pics
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Hex Fly
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Entry end
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Garda hitch
Your doing just great! Testing and experimenting till you get it the way you want. Everybody is alittle different and all you have to do is play with it till you get it dialed in. We all seek perfection in how we hang and its there,,,you just have to find it foryourself and what works for you. Keep it up. and enjoy! :)
Well even though my UQ was sliding around last night I slept better than my operations sergeant major. He has the same hammock as me, but doesn't have a hex fly or UQ and he bailed in the middle of the night and slept in the big sleep tents.
I think I've got it dialed in for tonight and luckily it'll be in the mid to high 50's overnight for the rest of the week.
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Originally Posted by jayf124
Consider a safety pin until you can get some Dutch hooks. Or if there is a way to make the cord on your shoulder side shorter than the other side, then when you tighten up you will be tighter on the shoulder side. Less likely to slip off of that shoulder then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airborne Trooper
Unless you need the tie outs to keep the hammock/net off of your face, don't worry about them. Lot's of hammocks don't have them, and your quilt will curve around you better without them.
I am wondering about the warmth rating for these quilts. Has any one used them way beyond 30? The reason I ask is: at AHE web site, Paul says he uses a layer of 6 oz CS with 2" of loft. Does he mean 6 oz/sq.yd.? Other places rate 5 oz/sq.yd of CS, with 1.2" loft, with a CLO of ~ 4 to about 20F if everything else is perfect. In a similar way, they rate a clo of 2 ( 2.5 oz CS XP or Apex) to ~ 40F, and I have been warm to mid/hi 40s with that and nothing else but cotton tee shirt.
So if AHE is using 6 oz/sq.yd CS Apex or XP, seems to me like 30 would be a very conservative rating?
It was in the 40s last night and even though my Jarbidge kept sliding I still slept very warm. I wouldn't be able to sleep in just a cotton shirt though. I slept in my ACU pants, shirt, grid fleece jacket, and used my field SB w/ gortex liner as a top quilt. I'm 5'5 and with the proper adjustments and sleeping fetal position it covers me from head to toe. I plan on ordering some AHE Triangle Thingies when I get back.
I have a Jarbridge with my WBBB. I have had to 30 without any problem. I think Paul is pretty conservative with his ratings. It sometimes slips off my left shoulder, but not very often. I keep the zippers of the WBBB closed by my face. I sometimes unzip and reach out to make sure the left shoulder is up where it should be, and then I fall asleep. I have the Triangle thingys. I first used them on both the head and feet end, but just this weekend I removed the head end one. It was making the shock cord cut into my head when I slept on my left side. I found out I didn't really need it. The foot one, however, helps keep the right foot side shock cord from cutting into my ankle. I think it is dialed in pretty good now. It is a well-made piece.
All my UQs seem to lip to one side at some point during the night. No big deal. I contribute this my turning (back to side and side to back) in the hammock. When I get cold on one slide I just reach over and under the hammock and pull the UQ back into place and I am warm again. No big deal. Just used my Jarbridge 3S down into the mid 30's this weekend.
I know they show the picture of it compressed next to the snapple bottle on the website, but I was wondering if any actual owner could give me the complete dimensions when it's packed?
I'm running out of space in my pack, and time before my thru hike...bottom insulation is my last big piece, and I'd hate for it to not fit inside..
With a thermarest and the UQ I've slept comfortable at 6F.
what sort of clothing were you wearing? that's promising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Girotogo
set of thermals, fleece pants and a primaloft jacket and a balaclava. I also threw a fleece blanket over my ridgeline as a top cover. I was very toasty.
nothing wrong with starting a new thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Nack
I'd suggest that other things should be ditched in favour of under insulation.
Some people pack their quilts loose in the bottom of their packs so that instead of plugs to fit, they are squidgy and fill in gaps.
TH
Will a Jarbridge fit a HH? Their website lists the Potomac as being designed for the HH, but I like the price (and the reviews) on the Jarbridge:) (Of course it's no good if it doesn't fit the hammock you have, in spite of good reviews and a great price.)
What about a WB Blackbird? "My" second hammock, ordered as a Father's Day present for Mr. Weaver.
Weaver
I had the jarbridge before I got the Phoenix and it fit my Expedition fine and then my blackbird just find. It's all in how you adjust it.
I have a Potomac, and a Jarbridge. Both are used on my HH Explorer, and on my Expedition. The Potomac is a perfect fit on both with full coverage and NO slipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weaver
In warm weather or when I want to save pack space, I use the Jarbridge. It works just fine. I still use the side tie outs on the hammock, but don't pull them out very tight....just enough to get the bugnet away from me.
I tied a piece of shock cord from a corner of the UQ to the side pull out on the hammock, but found it really isn't necessary. The quilt doesn't
move around enough to be an issue.
Score some points with the OS. Help each other adjust insulation. :thumbup1: