Already got myself a Christmas present from the Jacks!

I could not resist it, I've wanted ( not needed ) a JRB MW3 convertible in 900 FP, for $255, CLOSEOUT! Whoohoo! Wifey does not know I pulled the trigger on that one yet!

Coincidentally, I had just today been hanging in my JRB bridge with the MW4 suspended from it. Way to0 hot for that, but I needed to check something. Anyway, I was just reminded what a wonderful, fool proof, adjustment free combo that was, but also that it is over kill in warmth and weight for the majority of trips, and thinking how nice an MW3 would be. Then sat down tonight and saw not only a real good sale, but CLOSEOUT! Which I guess means they are going away. So I jumped on it.

Now I need for it to be a Christmas present from some one, but how am I going to resist using it between now and then? :rolleyes:

I may end of having to sell some insulation, I just am accumulating too much! If you don't believe me, just ask my wife!

Sweet for you BillyBob, that is a nice set up indeed.
Just tell the Mrs. you smelled liquor on Santa's breath and he must have confused months.

One of these days I'm going to have to try a bridge. They look pretty fool proof with the JRB UQ's.
I don't know why you'd want to get rid of any insulation. The room that I hang my down in probably has an R 100+ on that one outside wall.:lol:

Is this Christmas or a mid-life crisis thing? :D

Enjoy the new downy comfort!

Wisenber, say the word and you can play bridge this weekend :)

Congrats Billybob, hope you enjoy the UQ and live through the Mrs finding out!!!!

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I could not resist it, I've wanted ( not needed ) a JRB MW3 convertible in 900 FP, for $255, CLOSEOUT! Whoohoo! Wifey does not know I pulled the trigger on that one yet!

Coincidentally, I had just today been hanging in my JRB bridge with the MW4 suspended from it. Way to0 hot for that, but I needed to check something. Anyway, I was just reminded what a wonderful, fool proof, adjustment free combo that was, but also that it is over kill in warmth and weight for the majority of trips, and thinking how nice an MW3 would be. Then sat down tonight and saw not only a real good sale, but CLOSEOUT! Which I guess means they are going away. So I jumped on it.

Now I need for it to be a Christmas present from some one, but how am I going to resist using it between now and then? :rolleyes:

I may end of having to sell some insulation, I just am accumulating too much! If you don't believe me, just ask my wife!

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BB58,

You'll want to hang on to the Convertible as they are headed the way of the collector's item...Only two left and the clearance will be accomplished.

Pan

Make that one more. I just picked one up. Mind me asking the reason for the discontinuation?

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Make that one more. I just picked one up. Mind me asking the reason for the discontinuation?

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We are going to be in an elite club! I'm already in another one with my climashield Yeti!

No issues with the convertible model from a users point of view...Mostly just simplifying the large line of JRB quilts.

Pan

I was going back and forth just grabbed one. :)

And they are now no longer in products and pass into the realm of collector items...Enjoy!

Pan

Oh darn, I snoozed too long. They sure look nice. I am envious..

When I bought it and then refreshed and said sold out I may have done a little dance.

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And they are now no longer in products and pass into the realm of collector items...Enjoy!

Pan

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When I bought it and then refreshed and said sold out I may have done a little dance.

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OK then, another "collectors item"!

I don't remember reading anything here from anyone using the "convertible" model. Anybody got one?

I'm wondering how the foot end will be suspended when in "short" mode? Can't wait to play with this!

Billy Bob I have to agree. Its already shipped may not get here in time for this weekend but will be able to play with it on cub scout camp out next weekend. Goodtimes ahead.

Perfect time for a sale, right when I need to sell my MW3

I got it. I have used it and I love it . whoo hooooo yip yip yipee

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I got it. I have used it and I love it . whoo hooooo yip yip yipee

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Me too. I had a good nap with it under my BMBH today, some time in it yesterday also. It is not the winter model of course, but it still has a lot of loft.

I had to figure out how to rig it up in torso mode, but it wasn't that hard. I had spare JRB suspension shock cord that I used, but without that it came with 1 spare piece of shockcord(but no biner), so I could have used that or reall even just a piece of non-elastic cord. I just put it on in full length mode, just like I would with my MW4. Then noting how low it hung below the unoccupied hammock, I just adjusted the shock cord length and ran it from the torso hammock loops to the spreader bar rings with just enough tension so that it matched the sag in full length mode. At least that was my plan with non-elastic cord. With the JRB shock cord, I tensioned it just a tad more. Then I removed the foot end "compliment". All was attached normally at the head(and foot end in full length mode) end- with hammock loops through the quilt loops, then biners attached to the HAMMOCK loops.

Almost perfect. When I got in there was just a bit of gap under my legs. I reached down and grabbed the shock cord, gave a slight tightening. Perfect. It was not cold, and when I woke up from my nap my back was close to sweating. It goes from over my head about to my knees. ~ 22 oz(9oofp) total, ~13 oz in "torso" mode, the "compliment" is ~ 9 oz. I think that is a pretty darn good weight for this much loft in a quilt that covers that much, really more than just "torso" for sure.

All of these shots, except the one from inside, are of unoccupied hammock:

JRB MW3 convertible UQ in torso mode
rt side foot end on BMBH
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...9/img_3081.jpg

Head end on BMBH
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...9/img_3080.jpg

quilt above LT side of hammock from inside BMBH
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...9/img_3078.jpg

LT sideFootend on BMBH
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...9/img_3076.jpg

Well, I wanted large pics and not thumb nail, but they are kind of gigantic. Is there anyway to post not so big, other than thumbnail or maybe taking pics with a lower megapixil setting?

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Well, I wanted large pics and not thumb nail, but they are kind of gigantic. Is there anyway to post not so big, other than thumbnail of maybe taking pics with a lower megapixil setting?

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Workaround for me to pic size with Opera browser is to just move slider that I normally use to make print smaller. That immediately shrinks the pics, too. Other browsers likely work the same.

JRB are different, "orthogonal" --not contrary--, in the direction of their UQ baffles. Do you recall their explanation, sometime in yesteryear, of why they have found it works as well, or even has advantages, in their view?

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Workaround for me to pic size with Opera browser is to just move slider that I normally use to make print smaller. That immediately shrinks the pics, too. Other browsers likely work the same.

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I first upload the pics from my camera to my computer and then from computer to HF Gallery. So I don't have a website to work from. I suppose if I set the camera to take pics with fewer megapixels? Maybe that would help. Or, if there is some way to down size them on my compter before uploading them to HF? Or, most unlikely, some way to downsize them once they are at HF?

But right now, looks like my choice is thumbnails or gigantica.

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I don't recall JRB ever discussing that. The only discussion of that nature I recall is from another quilt maker, Te-Wa. But I can't remember the details. And I'm not sure if that is still his user name.
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http://tewaunderquilts.webs.com/

But I can't find anything about this there. ( I know you know about Te-wa, but I do remember him having opinions on this subject way back when)

Just got mine too. I'm a little confused on how to use the suspension in full length and torso mode. I don't find the included instructions all that helpful. Anybody have detailed pics or a video showing the proper method. Love the quilt otherwise.

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Just got mine too. I'm a little confused on how to use the suspension in full length and torso mode. I don't find the included instructions all that helpful. Anybody have detailed pics or a video showing the proper method. Love the quilt otherwise.

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CFI on the fly, I might be able to schedule some dual training:D What type of suspension are you using?

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Just got mine too. I'm a little confused on how to use the suspension in full length and torso mode. I don't find the included instructions all that helpful. Anybody have detailed pics or a video showing the proper method. Love the quilt otherwise.

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CFI, go here:
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/UQ%20Installation.htm

Do you have a gathered end hammock? As always, I think things are just much easier and straight forward with the bridge hammock, that took me about 3 minutes right out of the box. in full length mode. But no problems, it will just take a bit more initial "adjusting" with the GE hammock.

The online pics and directions are much easier to use than the pictures on the directions that come with the quilt. Just scroll down past bridge hammock to the gathered hammock directions. Click on the pictures, then you can " Ctrl + " multiple times to blow the pics up as big as you need to see the detail. Or, you can just download the images to your computer and view in your photo software. Believe me, this is way easier to do it htis way. It is how I found out I had been attaching the MW4 to the JRB BMBH wrong the 1st few months I had it. I was missing that the elastic suspension did not attach to the quilt, but instead to the loops on the hammock, which had been placed through the quilt loops 1st. It still worked, but works even better with the manufacturers exact directions. :rolleyes:

Plus the general directions at the top mostly apply to the non-diff cut quilts. You won't have to worry about that precision adjustment, because you don't have to worry about compressing the loft, if it is more than just barely touching your back. Just adjust the suspension so that the quilt is nice and snug against your back. Strat out too loose and keep tightening till definitely snug. But don't go crazy so that it is tight enough to damage anything. Try to make sure there is still a little slack left in the suspension so that it can give a little once you are in the hammock and as you get in and out. But other than that caution, just make sure it is good and snug against your back and butt. The only "too tight" you have to worry about with this quilt is if it is tight enough to damage something. I like to cross my arms over, grab the quilt edges and pull up. If I can move it upwards at all, I tighten the suspension up a tad. If it is snug and very tight, I might loosen it a little where it is only obviously snug, but not noticeably too tight.

Start in full length mode, that is easiest to get set up right out of the box. We will talk later, if needed, about torso mode. In full length modee on a GE hammock, just girth hitch the quilt suspension where the hammock meets the hammock suspension ropes/webbing. Then make another loop closer towards the hammock middle, and adjust length as needed according to your hammock length. I'll stop trying this, it will be much easier for you to just follow the pnline direction with pictures.

Thanks for the link. Much clearer on the website and I found that I actually had the foot end of the UQ up front. Still don't know what to make of it in torso mode. I have a Warbonnet blackbird dbl attached with woodpi slings.

Ill do some more fooling around and experimenting, but any more dual instruction would be great cause I'm not ready to solo!

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Thanks for the link. Much clearer on the website and I found that I actually had the foot end of the UQ up front. Still don't know what to make of it in torso mode. I have a Warbonnet blackbird dbl attached with woodpi slings.

Ill do some more fooling around and experimenting, but any more dual instruction would be great cause I'm not ready to solo!

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I am uncertain myself what the exact set up will be for torso length on a gathered end. Maybe Pan or Smee will check in. But it's going to come down to something like this: The head end will be exactly the same as with full length. But on the foot end, you are going to obviously find a way to extend the quilt suspension. They should have sent you and extra (looped on both ends but no biners) piece of shockcord. That should take care of one side, and I think it is meant to work on an HH, taking advantage of the HH side pull outs. So the right hammock knee area pull out goes through the rt foot end loop in torso mode. That holds that part in place after staking the HH pull out.

For the other side(lt), use the girth hitched JRB foot end suspension and adjust it way long so so that one of the biners is very close to the hammock end knot, and attach the long end biner to the quilt left side foot end loop.

But you don't have an HH, but a WB. So, do the left side as above( clear as mud?) Use that extra shockcord they sent you. You will have to take the unused biner from the the left side, put it on the shockcord, and rig it up LONG just like the left side, and hook it to the right side foot end quilt loop.

Again, clear as mud? The trouble is that they have discontinued this quilt, and I think they removed any pics that might have been there clarifying how to do all of the above. Easier to see than to put into words. They have pictures on their direction sheet, but they are too small for me to make out the detail.

Boy, life sure is easy with a JRB quilt and a JRB Bridge! :rolleyes: But, it can be done. And the above is my best guess as to how to get er done with torso and GE. Bottom line is: you have to come up with some long enough suspension to make up for the extra length between hammock end and quilt end once you go to torso mode. You can either try it like I said above ( I really thing that will work) or maybe extend things with some non-elastic cords of your own. You can just run a thin piece of cord to the supplied suspension shock cord.

OK, CFI, here Ya go, I got er done. Works perfectly. And I've got pictures rather than just words. Just click on them for a bigger image:

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3062_thumb.jpg
OOPs! OK, that is just someone trying to be cute!

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3082_thumb.jpg
MW3 Torso suspension on WBBB: lengthen the girth hitched foot end shock cord so that one biner(already removed in this pic) is real close to the hammock end knot, then remove one of the biners and put it on the extra supplied shock cord. You might want to put an extra loop closer to the hammock center like JRB shows in the directions for full length, I have not bothered here.

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3083_thumb.jpg
MW3 Torso suspension on WBBB take the extra looped shock cord JRB supplied, put the biner removed from the normal foot end suspension cord through one of the extra cord loops, and adjust just it LONG like the 1st one.

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3084_thumb.jpg
MW3 Torso suspension on WBBB: up close shot of extra cord with biner added and lengthened. Feel free to experiment with relative cord length lt vs rt on head and foot end, to apply more or less tension as needed on either side.

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3085_thumb.jpg
again, the regular cord with biner removed and the extra with biner added, both lengthened as needed.

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3086_thumb.jpg
Lt side biner attached to lt foot end of MW3 torso quilt, plenty of elastic slack left

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3087_thumb.jpg
from hammock end knot left side going down to left foot end of quilt

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3090_thumb.jpg
cord on Rt side from end knot to quilt foot end gros grain loop

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3091_thumb.jpg
foot end left side

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...3092_thumb.jpg
foot end rt side

http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...9/img_3093.jpg
head end

Wow, that is a lot of loft for a 13 oz "torso" UQ that goes from top of my head to about my knees. You might want to try and run the cord more over the top, but it seems to be working fine just as is. Also, you will have to experiment with how much the tighten the end closures. And if you find it has a tendency to slip of your left shoulder or rt foot, you might have some success having those cords tighter on the side that is slipping than the other side.

This is ABOVE my head to below about my knee. If there is any trouble cinching it off for full seal on the head end, experiment so that it is more towards the foot of the hammock, with the top edge of the quilt wrapped around your shoulders instead of over your head. But seemed to be working prett good as is.