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i only use my byer in my back yard,it works fine on long hikes,but the cords can tangle and be a pain:cool: neo
I attached a ridgeline as Just Jeff suggested in the following thread. No problems with the cords tangling this way.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/show...ine#post203624
Someone posted (Jeff??) that Byer's hammocks stretched quite a bit. I've been sleeping in the hammock for three nights now. Stretch is evident.
Each morning I am either touching the ground or real close. I'm sleeping on a porch and my "trees" are doorposts. The highest I can hang is 80 inches at the ends.I haven't decided where the stretch is coming from, but I suspect the Byer cords. I have to measure and record the lengths of the hanging straps and the ridgeline at night and again in the morning to be sure,
I can see the head side on one end and the feet side at the other hanging looser.
I may see if I can sleep the opposite way to equalize the stretch. I will also adjust the ridgeline since it seems like maybe too much sag now.
The adventure continues.
Tom
I'm pretty sure it's in the strings between the knot and fabric. I think it's high-memory stretch nylon, which means that it constricts like elastic when you get back out so the lengths won't change. If you can have someone measure it while you're in there, you'll see a difference.
I'm having the same problem. When I hang it on the Byer hammock stand, I can't get it high enough to keep me from touching the ground unless I take out all the sag...which keeps me from getting diagonal and gives me shoulder squeeze.
Still trying.
Just got back from an overniter with my Byer. My butt almost hit the ground with my Nest:eek: and I could'nt get on the diagonal for some reason. Last time I will use her. Cant wait to use my Hyperlight again which my nephew was borowing. Might try and cut the bug net off the Byer and rig it to the bottom of my Hyperlight to use as a weather shield.
You let someone borrow your Hyperlight? Wow. :D
That will be the last time that happens I can promise you. Was a little concerned seeing as though he was using a Kelty 3D bag with ZIPPERS as his overquilt. I warned him to be careful about compressing the zippers even though he was using a pad. I did'nt want him in the Byer cause I wanted his first hammock hangin to be cool.:D
He gets to use the UL Backpacker from now on when it arrives.
You are right to eliminate the zipper risk...especially on the ultra light material of the Hyper lite....have about 60 nites in my HH ELR, also extremely light bottom material, with no sign of wear... as expected for quilt use.Quote:
Originally Posted by FanaticFringer
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My 'byer' 'parachute' is holding up great. Not bad for $20.:eek: I have a seperate mosquito net, $15.:eek: K.I.S.S....
Yikes!!!!:eek: Your Avatar scared the %^&)@ out of me.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by locorogue
That pic really is exceedingly annoying. It might make me disable avatars...Quote:
Originally Posted by FanaticFringer
i agree with ff....very disturbing...
You ought to see me when I wake up:eek:
I have finally given up using my Byer Moskito hammock...the zipper ripped out of the first one I had at the ends. I wrote Byer-of-Maine or the Army Navy online store where I purchased it, can't remember which, suggesting improvements to avoid this and they sent me a new one asking me to return the ripped one to them, which I did...I think that was pretty nice of them...I had more brains on the second and sewed a lock stitch at each zipper end about 1/2 inch from the actual end of the zipper which successfully prevented ripping. However, I sit in my hammock and cook...the bed of the Moskito distorts so badly after you've done this a few times that you can no longer lie in the middle of the hammock. Bye bye Byer...still, I would recommend this hammock to a first timer as it's inexpensive...it would be a bummer to drop lots of $$$ and find you hate sleeping in a hammock....
Much nicer Avatar.Quote:
Originally Posted by locorogue
you guys are making me want to send mine back before I open it...just got it today...I have a claytor jungle hammock and love it..I picked up the byer to stick in my other survival load out....I guess Ill have to give it a shot and make it work..Im using two issue ponchos for a tarp...semper fi!
hey bro.i have a byer mosquitto.it works well.i only use it on long distance hikes were i go as light and tight as possible i use it with my preahers wifeQuote:
Originally Posted by SCOUTSNIPER36
9 x 9 silnylon tarp .i had my buddy muleskinner to make short mini snake skins thhat go over the cords to minimize tangling.i also carry a 4000 ci ruck that wieghs 10.5 oz on long distance.light and tight is right,but :Di dont freeze at night:cool:neo
pic of my byer and preachers wife tarp
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...r&imageuser=11
[QUOTE=neo;65985]hey bro.i have a byer mosquitto.it works well.i only use it on long distance hikes were i go as light and tight as possible i use it with my preahers wife
9 x 9 silnylon tarp .i had my buddy muleskinner to make short mini snake skins thhat go over the cords to minimize tangling.i also carry a 4000 ci ruck that wieghs 10.5 oz on long distance.light and tight is right,but :Di dont freeze at night:cool:neo
pic of my byer and preachers wife tarp
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...r&imageuser=11
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...r&imageuser=11
I got one last year and was not impressed. The mosquito netting ripped near the zipper the first time I got in it and the strings tangle something fierce on the ends. It was not a good introduction to hammocking.
Had a Byer Mosquitoe. They suck because of all the reasons previously listed. Don't waste your money, get a Travel Hammock Skeeter Beater if you want an integrated bug net. Or just buy their Ultra Light Travel Hammock and a seperate but net that can be installed around the hammock.
Sorry that this was not a good intro to hammocking:(. I've had my mosquito for over a year and have not had too many problems. I've had to add a ridge line to add in adjusting the sag. To keep the end lines from becoming tangled I tied a knot (one big overhand knot) at the edge of the hammock and then another about half way down. I got that from another thread, but I could not find just then when I looked for it. I have not seen any pulling on the hammock body other than where the stuff sack is attached to the hammock. I have pics of my hammock which I will try to load up, but I'm new to posting, so not sure if I'll actually be successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by tnoisaw
I usually try and find trees approx. 15' apart. I have about 1.5 to 2 feet of webbing and support before you actually make it to the hammock body.
I just bought a Byer and gave it a test run this past weekend. I went with the Byer for the same reasons others have: a lower $$$ way of trying out this "hammock camping" thing. I hung it between trees ~15' apart, probaby 5' high. I don't think I experienced the terrible sag that others report. I can see how the lines can get tangled, but a very little care can easily prevent that. I was easily able to sleep on the diaganol, on my back and in the fetal. I am 205 lbs, 73", bad back, bad knees. It wasn't the best night of sleep I've had in the woods, but I'm certainly going to keep trying it. I absolutely loved not sleeping on the ground or having to setup a tent. With only one test in the Byer, I think it is a good intro. More to follow.
Welcome to the forums amac. I hope you enjoy your byer as much as I have.
I have finally worked up the nerve to start doing mods on it. I have added tie out points to the sides and have ordered fabric to create a second layer to insert a pad. I also have done away with the ridge line that comes with it. I got tired of it being tangled up so I replaced it with one that I had worked out to be the correct length/ right sag. Now, thanks to the law of unintended consequences, I have a new problem... I now have a bug net in my face. What I would like to do is sew loops into the bug netting. I was wanting to do something like the Claytor Jungle Hammock
http://www.mosquitohammock.com/junglehammock.html
(I hope the link works:))
Any ideas on sewing on the netting with out adding holes that were not meant to be there????
Same here. I use it for backpacking with a custom made Tree Line tarp and it workd great. I picked up the Hammock for 15 bucks at Diamond Brand Outdoors.....not a bad deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by locorogue
Splinter, how did the second-layer mod go? I am thinking of doing the same mod. What would you suggest in how I go about it? What fabric, how to attach, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Splinter
I can relate on the Byer hammock, as I bought the Traveler style w/the cording. That bugged me for awhile, then when I found this site, I used it as a experiment to improve a future new purchase of a different brand. I fiddled with it, added a sheer curtain as a bug net, left the in-out side open/no zipper w/enough drape t tuck in if needed, sewed on the bottom insulation (taken out of old sleeping bag) with nylon facing. Works just same as a quilt, is on all the time. As I am in pretty much cold weather all summer in my neck of the woods, works for me. I now have a hammock from "The travel hammock(TM)" company. Will update this one same as my Byer(which I use on my porch).
I use my Byer for my 10 year old daughter. It works well!
I just realized a week ago that I have one of these hammocks! It was like finding money in your winter coat from last year. Still packaged and unopened; makes one wonder how I forgot about it :rolleyes:. Anyway, I have set it up a few times and spent probably a total of 7 hours in it. I was disappointed that I didn't get that 'Brazilian' feel that I was hoping for; I adore the Brazilian style hammocks for home sleeping. I did get some stretch, but nothing along the lines reported here and I'm close the the 'rated limit' weight wise.
Think I'll do an overnight in it as soon as I get the suspension switched out, but I suspect this would be a good hammock for getting the feel of hanging. More to follow.
I've got a piece of kevlar line that I'm going to use to add a structural ridgeline to my Byer Moskito.
I recently bought a Warbonnet BB, but started out in the Byer Moskito. I still love that hammock. I had no problem getting that Brazilian feel with the ridgeline installed. The only reason I wanted to upgrade from the Moskito is that I want a second layer for a pad pocket. I'm thinking of doing a mod on it because the Moskito is very lightweight.
The stretching on the Byers Moskito calms down after a few uses, make sure its real tight the first couple of times in the back yard while you "break" it in.
On a second issue the netting is very easy to get holes in it.
Hi all,
I read all the reviews before I bought this hammock (including all the forum posts I could find) and I still purchased based on price.
I'm in the Caribbean, 10* N Lat, so its hot, humid and occasionally rainy with windy nights.
Trip 1: 3 nights with custom tyvek tarp.
Hammock hung at 6' (I'm F/5'2"/160) with Byer micro ropes, Wenzel closed foam pad and poncho liner as sleeping bag/blanket. Butt 2'+ maybe 3'+ above ground. Slept diagonally and tried to not touch netting for fear of mosquito bites. First ever hammock hang, I *did* put drip lines but other campers removed them to use as a clothes line, I am still fuming even after a year has passed. The first night I was worried about not falling and not getting wet. For the other 2 nights I quarrelled and made sure my drip lines were in place. I slept much better as the camp went along when I was sure that the hammock was going to hold me, that the trees won't break, and mostly because I was so tired at the end of the day.
Trip 2: 3 nights with 10x12' poly camo tarp. 6' Hang, butt 2'+ above ground.
Hung a net hammock (to hold my HS 90L bag off the ground) under the byer moskito hammock on the same micro ropes. This added about 40lbs of weight (overseas trip so lots more to pack) for the micro ropes to support. Was worried about falling, but then I *loved* the 90L bag under the moskito that felt like a comfy mattress so I didn't need to sleep diagonal to be comfortable. The High Sierra backpack on the net/fish hammock was taking most of my weight relieving the byer hammock.
Trip 3: 4 nights using 10x12' poly camo tarp. 6' Hang with a 2" tree on one side that I had to tie off to 2 others for fear of breaking, extra paracord came in handy, butt 2'+ above ground. Lots of tangling of ropes. Coldest ever I've experienced in T&T, 12*C (I've been to Canada/NY/Miami several times but only in the summer).
Best sleep: With secondary hammock with a flat stuffed bag underneath that felt like an actual bed.
All trips I was the only one in a hammock, everyone else had ground tents.
I've had no ripping, tearing or anything close. I have not noticed any big stretch/sag during nights because I end up still pretty far away from the ground (my feet don't touch the ground when I am sitting up in the hammock). Never used a ridgeline for the hammock, only the micro ropes although trees were varying ranges apart - I just adjusted the micro ropes. The tarp and the bug netting always had their own ridgeline though.
Based on price and functionality it is a great hammock to start with and to modify yourself.
Next step: Silnylon tarp, DIY spreader bars and or tieouts to keep hammock diagonal and net off hands/legs.
Will totally recommend, at least for short people like me.
I slept in this for the first time this weekend. It's my first hammock. The end cords came with a plastic snakeskin. I left them on and will slide them up when in use. I think that has helped with tangling. For me the only issues were finding a way to keep the bugnet off me and keeping the ccf pad in place to keep warm. I found that a pillow pushed toward the end of the hammock (above the head, of course) spreads the hammock enough. Alternatively, sleeping with head more toward center of hammock gets me lower and farther away from the net.
I set up the GG 12' diagonal tarp in a diamond shape. I did not use the net, and I'm thinking the tarp line when set low may interfere with the net line.
[QUOTE=toddhunter;694288 end cords came with a plastic snakeskin. /QUOTE]
what a good idea... would it be possible to post a pic of said "plastic" snakeskins?
[QUOTE=sandykayak;700892]I'll get a better shot, but you can see a little bit in these where the plastic (like a long baggie) is extended some in one pic and pushed back in the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by toddhunter;694288 end cords came with a plastic snakeskin. /QUOTE
Slept in 39 degree temps last night. Used a poncho for the underlayer and stuffed it with my down parka. Worked great. I was cold, but I slept. I'm sure I could have kept warmer with a hat and a second layer of clothes. I'm going to let things warm up and use the underlayer with my ccf pads. The hammock itself is comfortable, though it takes some adjusting to keep the bug net off my face/head. I didn't need it last night, but i'm practicing. Very happy so far.
The cord for the net is completely tangled and useless. Just about any decent cord can be used instead.