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What is the fastest suspension to put on your hammock? The reason I am asking is I love my Blackbird 1.0 dbl just don't like the suspension all that much. if I can't find something I like I may have switch to a bivy which I really don't want to do. but I used it during hunting season this year and realized the suspension is not ideal for what I need.
Are you looking for the fastest to attach to the hammock or to attach to the trees?
The suspension normally stays attached full time to the hammock so most folks may only change it once initially. Most suspensions only take a minute or two to set up on the trees. Curious what's taking so much time???
I use the stock adjustable straps on my BB with Dutch Clips. Very easy and very fast.
Might help if you told us what suspension you have as there are two different suspensions that are available on the Blackbird. Also,we need to know what it is you don't like about the suspension.
As Number 5 would say, "Need Input!"
The fastest would probably be a length of webbing with a quick connect (dutch clip or carabiner) at one end and passed through a pair of descender rings tied to the hammock.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless79
Get to the site, wrap the webbing and quick connect it in place around a tree, repeat on the other end, then yank on the bitter end of the two straps to the appropriate tension and you're done.
When you're done, let out the webbing to full length, unclip and stuff.
This does beg the question... Why are you looking to speed up hammock hanging and how fast do you really need it to be?
sorry I should have stated that in the first post but I have the adjustable webbing suspension on there now. I will check out the Dutch clips.
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Originally Posted by bacon_grease
it is not really the set-up it is more the take down in the early morning doing a back country hunt. the least amount of noise and and easy take down makes my morning easier in the dark.
check out my latest video I have posted .. I use Dutch's clips with the whoopies through the eye sewn shut .. no toggles.. no breaks in the suspension .. used it 16 days in a row .. other then a hammock I have thats's nothing but straps through the gathered end in which I tie a bowline .. the former is still the faster .. unless I tie the bowline in the right spot times 2 ..
I'd think since you already have the adjustable webbing, just add a pair of Dutch Clips and you'd be set, or if you prefer a pair of climbing rated biners. :shades:
Yep, Dutch clip or carabiner to connect the strap back to itself and you never remove the straps from the hammock.
link pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Black Wolf
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Originally Posted by ruthless79
http://youtu.be/0g6wx7qhDfA
I found it under your profile. the name just through me off at first. that is what I am after something faster and simple. I will find me some Dutch clips and whoopie slings. thank everyone for there helpQuote:
Originally Posted by Black Wolf
6' whoopies on hammock, AHE 6' tree slings, and whoopie's Nano 23 Biner. Everything light weight and simple, and quick.
And for larger trees, I carry couple of 4' pieces of amsteel with a locked brummel loop on each end for extensions around the heftier trees.
http://shop.whoopieslings.com/Nano-2...SA-Nano-23.htm
http://arrowheadequipment.webs.com/a...ts/show/945324
+1 It doesn't get much simpler than that.
For my HH, I have whoopies attached to tree huggers with nacrobiners, with a Dutch clip at the end. It takes more time to deal with the snakeskins than it does to get the hammock hung. Takedown is just loosen one whoopie and unhook the Dutch clips - just a few seconds. And it's all one piece, so nothing to lose.
I'll be moving this system over to my new Blackbird, but haven't done it yet. The strap suspension that came with the BB is a real PITA compared to what's on my HH.
For me, the strap suspension on my Blackbird is easier and quicker to use than whoopie slings. Now that should confuse the noobs out there.:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by vgnbkr
As using a tarp is a good idea about 95% of the time, I consider "set-up" to mean setting up tarp and hammock. That's one reason I often use a true structural ridgeline for my tarp. It adjusts quickly with whoopie slings on each end attached to tree straps that use Dutch clips. Then the hammock attaches to the ridgeline, with no adjustment needed.
Have played with various forms of suspension and for me nothing is faster than a webbing suspension with a biner or Dutch Clip at the end. Just wrap the end of the webbing around the tree and and clip to itself. Then adjust length at the cinch buckles (or descender rings).
Weight and space are a different issue.
Cinch buckles and Dutch Clip gets my vote. Someone should make ti cinch buckles.
Yes! "someone" should!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch
Really, Really, REALLY Like the All-in-One Whoopie sling from whoopieslings.com. It is comparible to the buckle/rings+webbing+biner/clip option and I do believe lighter. However, it is not the cheapest option. I like them so much I swear it's the only way to hang.
I've been reading a lot in various post about "best" and "fastest". I seldom see a reference to "most versatile," which is the question I've been thinking through the most. A few weeks ago I got a WBBB with the webbing suspension. It's great in my backyard. I can see there might be times on trail, however, when I would be using larger trees, would have to use trees farther apart, etc., etc. What I've decided to do is replace the straps with whoopie slings and use the slings as tree hungers for very large or far apart trees. I know there are those who sill cringe at the weight, but I'm a canoeist and an ounce or two here or there is really fairly meaningless. I'll be out for 35 nights this May and June, however, and versatility is a must. I'm also using a single ridgeline under my tarp with twenty feet of cord at each end and using carabiner figure 9s to attach to the trees and purissics from ring loop on tarp to ridgeline to allow me to slide the tarp around on the ridgeline. Again, the carabiner 9s add a few grams, but they make things much more versatile. So, versatility is where my money is. It may add a few more seconds to the pitch and break down, and it may add a bit of weight, but it will increase the campsites and hanging possibilities I can make use of.
where could I see a picture of your set-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by WV
There have been some great replies and I am thankful I was not really wanting to go back to sleeping on the wet ground here in the Northwest. tree size is sometimes a problem for me as well. I will just have to try the whoopie slings and Dutch clips first and experiment from there to see what is going to be best for me.
QFT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knotty
Fastest setup and takedown possible with that.
What about woopie Hooks larks head woopie sling to strap wrap strap around tree and attach woopie hook to continious loop which is wrapped round gathered end of hammock fast easy simple and only one piece of hardwear needed
What be a QFT?Quote:
Originally Posted by DuctTape
"Quoted For Truth"Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo
Ruthless, there's a video of a winter version that uses the method of hanging the hammock from the tarp's structural ridgeline. The point of the video was to show all the layers that kept me warm, not to describe the suspension, but you can see how it connects about 5:20 in the video. For Fall camping I'd be using an insulated hammock and topquilt combo that fit in a fat tube/snakeskin that stows either in my pack or tied on horse-shoe style. It's much more compact than the rig shown in the video.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless79
Thanks for clarifying your question. Like many of the other posters I immediately thought of quick set-up. For your before-dawn quiet takedowns, this method would also work. A separate snakeskin for the tarp packs up quickly, too. One thing I'd suggest is a whoopie sling to tree strap setup that remains permanently attached. It's nice to have all the pieces connected so nothing gets left behind in the dark. I sometimes pack my top quilt separately, in which case I have three pieces. If I leave it in the hammock, there are two. (You can leave an underquilt on your hammock so the combo functions like my insulated hammock.)
Hope this helps. Good luck!
Thank you WV great video. You have an awesome setup.