BIAS Bug net

Hey guys....I did a DIY bug net with some sheers(gathered under hammock with shock cord).....not bad.....BUT it seems like they are not "deep" enough....vertically.....when I get in my BIAS hammock and sinch it up.....I still end up with a BIG hole about the size of a dinner plate under my backside.....that always seems to work it's way up to my face!.....I can wake up in the night...and know where it is by the cooler air

soooo..... It looks like the BAIS bug net is made the same.....is that the case??.....I might guess that there's is "taller" so you can gather correctly???

My buddy has a ENO bugnet and I like the way it zips and unzips on the side....but it looks WAY too short for a BAIS.

It could be just my BIG butt weighing the hammock down :D

I use the ENO Guardian on my BIAS WWM with no problems.

no problems with length?......The ENO hammock seems way shorter that the BIAS...interesting.

Sticks out about 8 inches on each end. Doesn't close up as well on the ends as the ENO but it hasn't been a problem but I could put a bandanna in each end to block the opening. I'll be sleeping in it tonight. :D

I took my personal BIAS bugnet and trimmed it shorter than our customer version (meaning the distance from the ridgeline to the bottom area where the shock cord draws up).

I did this to trim weight and bulk. When I'm in my favorite double layer hammock and cinch the net shut under me, it leaves a large hole... way larger than the dinner plate hole you mention. In fact, it just tucks enough to hold under the hammock. I call it perfect because it holds in place perfectly and offers enough coverage to wrap me completely -- except underneath where my double layer offers enough protection.

While I am mosquito-phobic, I like this because as long as the net seals under my hammock, critters can't get at me. Whether the opening is the size of a silver dollar or the size of a pizza box, or the size of mine, I don't find it troublesome because the bungee pulls against the hammock bottom and creates that seal. Some might say critters can bite through the hole in the bottom through your single layer hammock, but I am usually clothed and/or on top of a blanket or pad or using a UQ.

I spent four days in rainy weather in the woods of southern Missouri where mosquitos were active and while they bit me around the camp fire, they didn't get me in my net.

I am not sure the size of the opening matters as long as that bungee seal is created. Some may disagree, but that's my take. I am sure areas with more crawlies and a denser mosquito population might challenge this concept (I think of a summer experience in Reelfoot Lake, though the size of the hole seemed a non-issue to me versus the cloud of mosquitos that virtually nothing could stop).

I agree Brain.....mine will "seal" under me as well.....the problem I have is that seal will move.....if it stayed under me I would be golden.....but I will wake up and that hole has moved to the side...and I have a plate size hole at my face.

again...mine are DYI so it my be the issues???....not sure.

Seems like you need some way to secure the net to your ridgeline so it will stop shifting while you sleep

Second!

I don't really try to close the hole in my BIAS Buginator net on my BIAS WW DL. I just cinch it up enough to have some slight tension on the sides of my hammock. Its a DL so I dont worry about skeets or if cool enough the PLUQ takes care of it.

Never had a problem with bugs getting in or "hole creep", it sounds like your DIY may be cinched up to tight.

I have a BIAS hammock and have made both the Fronkey bug net out of noseeum and done a couple of the polyester sheer ones the same way. They have all worked great, even though the shears are much shorter up and down than the noseeum. I have also modified the end openings to 1" to pass the whoopies through, but still do a tie off with a piece of line.
I also use the underquilt protector a lot with my under quilt.

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Originally Posted by Athens-m50

I agree Brain.....mine will "seal" under me as well.....the problem I have is that seal will move.....if it stayed under me I would be golden.....but I will wake up and that hole has moved to the side...and I have a plate size hole at my face.

again...mine are DYI so it my be the issues???....not sure.

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Not sure on this one. We've tested a lot of these and ours tend to hold in place. They don't want to move around much and if the net does wiggle a bit, it still holds the seal and doesn't come out from underneath the hammock. There are a few Buginators out there, so maybe another owner can offer up some more info that will help you with your DIY net. We've had good results with our testing and we shipped out a few prototypes early on. While our first few designs needed some work, the issue you mention was never cited as a problem. Assuming we're using the same design -- and it seems we are, generically speaking -- then it's a tough one to figure out.

I'm frankly having a hard time understanding how the bottom entry opening could shift (or roll, which is what you are describing). I have three BIAS bugnets (two Buginators and a NanoBuginator) and have never experienced this issue. My kids have used them and they can break the design of anything, but haven't found fault or been able to destroy the BIAS Buginator.

The only thing I can think of is that you have no hammock ridgeline. Is that the case? If you have a hammock ridgeline, are you cinching the ridgeline openings of the bugnet with shock cord or something? That should minimize bugnet roll.

I suspect your ridgeline openings are rather large and uncinched, though I could be wrong. I also suspect your dimensions are not tapered from ridgeline to shock-cord bottom opening, but somewhat straight. Again, this is just speculation.

Can you give us a visual on that bugnet, a pic or vid? A picture is worth a thousand words.

By the way, I pay not attention to the size of the bottom entry opening - it could be the size of a dinner plate or the size of Roseanne Barr's backside. I don't even try to get it snug. I don't think it's in the DNA of a mosquito to search for food that way. I am mosquito-phobic and have never had a mosquito come in through the bottom entry no matter how loose it was cinched.

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Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr

I also suspect your dimensions are not tapered from ridgeline to shock-cord bottom opening, but somewhat straight. Again, this is just speculation.

Can you give us a visual on that bugnet, a pic or vid? A picture is worth a thousand words.

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That's my first thought as well. Can you put up some side views before and after it's cinched?

ok.....if I can get my stuff setup...i will do video....but that may be some time....

I do have a ridge line.

and again...this is a DIY bugnet.....I think my main problem is that the sheers I used are not big enough....as my big behind gets in....I think the laws of physics come to play and that the bugnet is not "tall" enough...so when I get in, maybe it's wider that tall....and it shifts to the side?....

will see if I can do Video.

BIAS sells more that one type of bugnet?

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Originally Posted by Athens-m50

BIAS sells more that one type of bugnet?

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As of now, we have one net on the market. A modified/lighter version of that net is in prototype now. Surfr ordered a regular net, but with his permission, we sent one of those for his input on its design/weight. It will be released soon, but as bug season is drawing to an end, we're not rushing it.

Both "styles" are identical with the exception of the weight of material. I have plans on playing around (when I find time) and "trim" it down some more.