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A second look at the Hammock Gear Dot Com, Four Season Cuben Fiber Tarp, with the extended ridgeline mod. In this review I discuss the custom ordered cuben fiber skins I ordered from HG ... hammock length ... line wrapping and get a little buggie!
HAMMOCK GEAR FOUR SEASON CUBEN FIBER TARP
nice job with the video there bug breath,grin,keep up the good work.:D
Well thank ya! I appreciate that! :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by hairbear
Nothing like a bit of gnat protein in the evening!
ive always thought if i could hike as fast as i drive there would be little need to pack a protien bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawk-eye
Good review Hawk-Eye, makes me have to re weigh my snake skins ;)
After all those vid's I sometimes still expect Spencer to let out a (lion's) roar at the end...
Anyway, thanks for sharing.
Grtz Johan
Thanks pal ... yeah that'd would be pretty cool ... man it was hard enough to get that shot back then. Point a camera at him and he'd turn away! Actually tricked him with a spoon full of peanut butter! :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by born2roam
I enjoyed the conversation with you Hawk-eye, even if it was a bit one sided :lol:
Seriously, very informative. I use skins but roll my tarp from the long edge instead of the side edges like you do. Your method is a LOT better.
I have a 12' tarp also and love it. I recently cut the middle 12' out of my continuous ridgeline to save a few more grams (literally) and found that it's also easier to set up. I have a Dutch hook on each end of the ridgeline and simply wrap it around the tree and hook it into itself. Then slide the prusics to adjust the position if the tarp.
Cuben skins with cuben tarp; why not?!
Thanks for the video!
Well thanks for watching!Quote:
Originally Posted by MAD777
Well Hawk-Ustus.......I concur with all thou doth utter. Light and nice and light and sweet.
Shuggedy
Thankust thou ole Shugrow of the frozen north country! Now go back and finish part 2 of the adventures of Shugrow and Wandering Fool for all of us Shuggity shugfans! :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shug
Interesting. Something to ponder if I go the cuben route. Thanks!
Hawk-eye,
A question (which is maybe better address by Stormcrow?), there is a "Winter Palace", which is 10'10" by 10'7", then there is the "Cat Cut Winter", which is 10'10" by 8'6", but you can pay an extra $15 to get a 12' ridgeline (12' by 8'6").
What's the difference? Are there different tie-outs? I thought the 4 season had doors like the Palace. Do the extra 1' on each side of the Palace make up for the 1' shortness on the length? I understand that the 4 season has a cat cut on the ridgeline, which I'd prefer and if I can get it for $314, instead of $399?
Also, I realize the weight advantage. I'm more wanting to know about waterproofness. I have a standard Superfly. I sealed up the ridgeline, but I think water will soak through the fabric from pressure on the inside (like a tent). Is the cuben fiber a more waterproof fabric? Does it get worn through after repeated folds on the same crease (like a blue tarp)?
Any thoughts?
Hi Boomer,
I read your post a couple of times and I am not sure what the question is but I will try to clarify what I can.
Basically we have three tarps:
The Winter Palace (has doors)
The 4S Tarp (also has doors)
The Hex Tarp
You can have the ridgeline lengthened (or shortened). Most people that change the stock dimension of a tarp opt for making it a bit bigger-hence the 12' option.
The only difference between The 4S Tarp and The Winter Palace is the fact that it has two, one foot skirts bonded to it to make it wider. It is a shame that we have to charge so much more for that little addition, but we do it because it is both material and labor intensive.:eek::(
The only difference between The Hex tarp and the other two is that it is minus the doors.
I am not sure if I made things clearer or just confused you more...:) Shoot me an email or give me a call and I might be able to better explain it to you.
For what it is worth, we will probably just be changing the stock 10'10" to an even 11' very soon....(no brainer, I know)
~Stormcrow
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Adam answered most of what you asked I think .. on the Superfly, not sure why you sealed the ridgeline ... the only thing that needs sealing on it is the pull outs and some folks don't even do those since they drip outside your hanging area ... but I sealed mine. I've NEVER had the Superfly to leak ... nor mist ... I've had some condensation from the amount of fog and humidity but that's really it. There are all levels of quality in sil nylon but at least on my Camo Superfly ... she's about as water tight as I've seen with sil and I've been in it through some nasty down pours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomer
I've yet to ride out a downpour in the Cuben but the nature of the fiber is ... pardon my simple comparison ... like a solid plastic. It's not going to absorb water at all, so I'd say it's more water proof than sil nylon to that respect.
As far as wearing from repeated folding ... I honestly can't say. BUT like in the video I've elected to roll and stuff mine because I don't know if it will do that like the old coated nylon tent flies of my younger days. But I think that if you want to fold it ... folding a little differently each time, not allowing it to be subjected to high heat .... can't hurt!
Thanks guys, that clarified the differences for me. I guess the wetness was from condensation.
Hey Hawk-eye, how small can you pack the skin up (with the tarp in it I mean), just wondering how it compares to using a stuff sack?
Thanks.
Great video as always video really makes me want a cuben tarp. The skins are a nice touch.
Well thanks! Yeah they do the trick!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Tattoo
Well actually in the skins .... It fits in the original stuff sack ... Skins & all!Quote:
Originally Posted by L84toff
superior review. you have added fuel to the fire of lust for Cuben.
i still can't bring myself to let go of the CRL, mainly because i can't pull a
CRL too tight.
thanks for the peak!
__bob__
Thanks for watching pal!Quote:
Originally Posted by flatline