I just uploaded the video on this, I've got to scan and upload the plans I've drawn out. Enjoy.
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I just uploaded the video on this, I've got to scan and upload the plans I've drawn out. Enjoy.
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I'm game to try it. Looking forward to your plans (interested in your footbox).
Great work SGT Rock! I've got sights set on the 1.7 version. I look forward to the plans so I can get started!!
Thanks for posting! :D
+1 on the footbox implementation.
Planning to follow this thread. Thanks for innovating, Sgt. Rock!
Instructions uploaded:
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery.../001_thumb.gif
Great work!
I have enjoyed your posts and videos for years. I like the UL approach, even if I am not a UL person myself. My knees appreciate attention to pack weight, especially on descents. Thanks for all the videos and the Hennessy mods.
So, you can effectively use a 48" wide hammock if you add a foot box? That is tres interesting.
The detail about how you get a UCR to stay stable is a bit vague to me. Exactly where do you put the supporting tubing?
Sgt---hoping you can go over the silicon bit at the tail of the UCR with close-up pictures. I didn't get it quite on the vid, but for me that was the most interesting part of the hammock. thx
Great video Sgt! Thanks for providing instructions, looks great.
Cheers
could you just cut the hammock with the triangle already added?
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Then sew the open end of the triangle to the body and then hem the side?
Here you go - UCRS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu76pievGDU
great, thanks, I've got it now.
1. tail of UCR bury cord gets a tiny fixed eye splice.
2. 1" of silicon tubing, ends folded back, slipped over long cord that passes through bury cord
3. tiny fixed eye from (1) above has zip tie passed through it, round the silicon tubing, and tightened up. This slips when you slide it along the cord, but holds tension on the UCR.
I like this and will give it a try soon.
The way I showed here is the simpler way to make them. My older hammock had the tail of the UCR pass through the silicone tube as well before it was bent back and spliced to the zip tie. That method creates a little more traction, but is also harder to make.
Thanks for adding that detail video on your UCRs.
Very nice. I like the UL aspect of your system. Do you have the weight of your hammock? I didn't catch it in the video if you stated it. Thanks for the info.
Johnny
The total weight of the hammock:
Hammock with UCRS, ridge-line, and pocket: 5.80 ounces
Tree Straps: 1.38 ounces
Toggles: 0.07 ounces
Tree strap extenders (2): 0.35 ounces
Total: 7.60 ounces
... had a heck of a time watching your videos on this Sarge through a really bad connection and a iff'y VPN but it was well worth it. I like my old heavy longer hammock but man you really did a good job on making this work. VERY IMPRESSIVE ... I love seeing what you might come up with next! Well done!
Probably down the road you end up having a full camping kit in a small fanny pack the way you're going! Ha! :woot:
You should see my summer pack now. It looks like a book bag.
Thru-hiker.com
http://thru-hiker.com/materials/breathable.php
They only have two colors left of the 1.1 as they are discontinuing that on the site, neither of them are the gray I used. But the good thing is it is on sale for $5.99 a yard if you want red or yellow.
Half the weight of my lightest set up ... yeppers.. this is on the "to do" list .. I have WL Snipe as well with the footbox .. loving it ...
You Rock..Sarge !!
Simplicity.
///o.o
Sarge, nice work! Looking at Thru-Hiker, is the fabric sold by the foot, or by the yard? It doesn't specify.
I was casting about for a good pattern using lightweight fabric, and lucked into your thread. I like having a hammock with me when I ski tour, and hike, but don't always want a heavy unit like I have a few of, so this fits the bill greatly.
When I bought it, it was by the yard. I'm sure it still is.
I was recently asked for some pictures and clarification on how the parts are connected on my hammock. Here are some pictures and descriptions:
http://hikinghq.net/forum/showpost.p...3&postcount=34
http://hikinghq.net/forum/showpost.p...3&postcount=35
Hey SGT, loving the design! I am coming from ground UL so this is great! Also, I just made my own gathered end hammock and it is ALMOST too short so this is the perfect solution.
Did you just guess-timate the lengths for the hammock and the footbox or is there a formula behind it? How tall are you? If there is no formula I might try and make one off of your measurements and your height and width of shoulders.
I will probably be cranking out a 1.5 version soon
A lot of discovery learning went behind this - a few busted asses and lots of Trail and Error. There were some spectacular failures along the way.
There wasn't any formula I came up with, but I can analyze stuff to death and probably would have given time. I am 5'8" so I would probably do simple beer math and add one inch to each end for every 1" above 5'8" of height. I would also play with width of the triangle for the foot box and find what is comfortable for you. It is a very good way to make a 48" wide hammock feel like a 60" wide hammock.
Got the 1.1 to try this ready to go. Going to prime my thread injector saturday morning ad give this a go. Haven't gotten my dynaglide for the UCR's or the ridge line material yet but will work with what I have around and post my results as soon as I get it finished. Wish me luck!
Good luck.
I'm tapatalkin' ya'll
Ok so I have a question on the foot box for this design. I noticed the triangle is 30" long and 12" wide. Does the other side of this triangle end in a point or should their be a few inces of material? The schematic makes it look like I should have a couple of inches on that end but was unsure since there is no length listed.
Thanks!
I leave it about an inch wide at the tip. I've already totally attached the triangle and hemmed the sides before I fold over the material to make the channels.
I got my foot box added this weekend to my existing hammock and I have to say it is MUCH more comfortable now. After going back and remeasuring I realized my hammock was the same dimensions as SGT's w/o the foot box and I am 5'11" and #225... no wonder why it felt a little tight. It looks rough so it is definitely a proto. I had a bear of a time figuring out the attachment of the foot box to the hammock body where the grosgain reinforcement is. I got it but it sure is ugly.
My prototype was a total frankenhammock. My instructions must be unclear because I have heard from a few folks that they have trouble figuring out my footbox - I gotta put some thought into that. But I am glad it worked out for you. It's amazing how much difference that little part makes.
The place I put the webbing reinforcement is a little wacky looking also. Works though. Trying to sew through the webbing about did in my thread injector. Next model I will have to do that part by hand I think. Would you mind posting some pics of how you attached your foot box? Mine works but not 100% sure I got it right.
How much weight do you save by using UCRs instead of whoopies?
I was just talking about that on another thread. I think I saved about 4-5 grams per line, so 8-10 total grams saved over doing UCRs the same length. Not a whole lot, but if you are a gram weenie it matters. The original project that got me going down this path was getting the entire hammock system under a pound, so it mattered a lot to me.
Mine ended up being 10.5 oz for the hammock w/ dynaglide whoopies and ajustable ridge line and 6' tree straps for our massive trees here in CA.
Including HG 4 season cuben tarp, 8 stakes, tarp ridge line and tarp skins ended up being 1 lb 4.78 oz. Not quite under a lb. but close enough to bring my total base weight to 6.8 lbs, including a full length UQ. The down side to being tall and having cold feet.
My current hammock (just the hammock) is 5.50 ounces, add dynaglide UCRs and 4.5' straps and it goes up to 7.52 ounces. For extra length on the big trees I made some 6' dynaglide extenders that are like 5 grams each - that could save you some weight. But nothing is going to change the fact you are tall LOL.
Here are the weights I ended up with:
Hammock body: 9.4 oz
UCR+SRL: 1.6 oz
Straps: 3.8 oz
Total: 14.8 oz
Keep in mind that mine is made of 1.5 ripstop and I only had some left over 1.1sil for my footbox so that is heavier than needed. My finished hammock body measurements were 109"x48". My straps are 8' of 1" polyester webbing and my UCRs are 8' of 7/64 amsteel since I am a little gravitationally inclined. I am going to do some measurements to see how much I will lose by trimming my straps and adding some amsteel extenders
Good to know how some materials affect the weight. Sounds like some really long straps and UCRs, probably good for hanging very long distances and big trees.
I just made three new Ghosts for me and my two boys. I did it with that 1.1 ACU ripstop nylon from a group purchase and it ended up being lighter than 1.1, it is about 1.0 after weighing and calculating it. It saved me about 22 grams, but it seems like it might be too light. Time will tell, I'm almost ready to carry a spare in case it rips out on the trail which I have had happen before on experiments.
I got the same stuff and want to make the Ghost. I'm 210 lbs. Will this material be strong enough to hold my weight?