BB knee ridge - hammock weight selection

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12-07-2010, 20:06
^shane^

BB knee ridge - hammock weight selection

Quote:

Originally Posted by warbonnetguy

at your weight, dl1.1/1.0 vs dl1.7 will be same flatness, dl1.1/1.0 would probably be more comfy for you actually as going overkill on the fabric causes more of a knee ridge for some

I didn't want to hijack a different thread, but Brandon's reply on that thread intrigued me.

I'm 6'0" and weigh in right now about 225. I'm back on my workout regimen and hope to be down around 200 in 3-4 months.

I've spent ~10 nights in my 1.7 BB dbl. I've had a couple of those "perfect" hangs with very little knee ridge pressure, and have had a couple of hangs where I just had to get out and re-adjust to get a good hang. I know it's all in practice, practice practice... but...

Reading Brandon's response made me wonder if I might get a better hang from a 1.1 dbl rather than a 1.7 dbl???

Has anyone else compared the two?

I'm leaning towards just buying one and trying it out. I can always re-sell it:cool:.
12-07-2010, 20:15
Alan

I don't have any experience with a 1.1 double, but I recently sold my 1.7 double and got a 1.1 single which seems to be a better fit for my weight and build. I experienced the knee ridge thing you're talking about with the 1.7 double and it finally got to me enough to make the change.
12-07-2010, 21:59
BillyBob58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan

I don't have any experience with a 1.1 double, but I recently sold my 1.7 double and got a 1.1 single which seems to be a better fit for my weight and build. I experienced the knee ridge thing you're talking about with the 1.7 double and it finally got to me enough to make the change.

So, Ridge problem solved? What is your weight and is all good with that 1.1 single?
12-08-2010, 07:14
Alan

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyBob58

So, Ridge problem solved? What is your weight and is all good with that 1.1 single?

Yes sir. Problem solved. I'm around 150lbs soaking wet and the 1.1 is definitely a better fit for me.
12-08-2010, 07:33
^shane^

Just ordered a 1.1 dbl in BLACK. If it doesn't hang better than the 1.7 dbl, it'll be for sale pretty quick...
12-08-2010, 07:43
ShadowAlpha

so the DL 1.o should be better for about 120lbs?
12-08-2010, 08:13
optimator

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowAlpha

so the DL 1.o should be better for about 120lbs?

I'd go with the 1.1 single. Unless your going to use a pad that is.
12-08-2010, 08:40
ShadowAlpha

Do you suggest that because of my weight?

Any other differences? 1.0 DL vs 1.1 single?

Quote:

Originally Posted by optimator

I'd go with the 1.1 single. Unless your going to use a pad that is.
12-08-2010, 09:21
Dylan

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowAlpha

Do you suggest that because of my weight?

Any other differences? 1.0 DL vs 1.1 single?

I was deciding between the 1.1 double and the 1.7 single (similar situation, just a little heavier). One reason I went with the 1.1 double was after reading a lot of comments that skeeters can bite your bottom parts through single layer.
12-08-2010, 09:22
BillyBob58

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowAlpha

Do you suggest that because of my weight?

Any other differences? 1.0 DL vs 1.1 single?

I assume the 1.0 DL will support more weight than than a 1.1 single. Which may actually be a comfort disadvantage if you don't need the strength for your weight, at least as far as the leg ridge pressure thing. So it would seem anyway. Or, of course, if you need the dl for a pad or mosquitoes.
12-08-2010, 10:06
ShadowAlpha

Skeeters! that's it - made my decision.

Dylan? what part of Central jersey?
originally from East Windsor/Twin Rivers here
12-08-2010, 10:25
cataraftgirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^shane^

I didn't want to hijack a different thread, but Brandon's reply on that thread intrigued me.

I'm 6'0" and weigh in right now about 225. I'm back on my workout regimen and hope to be down around 200 in 3-4 months.

I've spent ~10 nights in my 1.7 BB dbl. I've had a couple of those "perfect" hangs with very little knee ridge pressure, and have had a couple of hangs where I just had to get out and re-adjust to get a good hang. I know it's all in practice, practice practice... but...

Reading Brandon's response made me wonder if I might get a better hang from a 1.1 dbl rather than a 1.7 dbl???

Has anyone else compared the two?

I'm leaning towards just buying one and trying it out. I can always re-sell it:cool:.

I'm really interested to see what you think about your 1.1 double experiment. I was in the same quandary when I ordered. My weight is right at the max flatness for the 1.1 double. I also wanted the olive green color. So I went 1.7 double. I also had Brandon make mine a custom with a right side zipper. I haven't been able to try mine out yet. I recently had knee surgery and we've had terrible weather lately (cold, snow, wind) so my BB hasn't "flown" yet. The talk about the knee ridge thing worries me, especially since I am committed to some weight lose also. Maybe I better tough it out and go put up the hammock in the yard to see what I experience.
Keep us updated on your findings.
KJ
12-08-2010, 11:57
warbonnetguy

you can always put a filled stuffsac under them if you need to
12-08-2010, 12:18
Dylan

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowAlpha

Skeeters! that's it - made my decision.

Dylan? what part of Central jersey?
originally from East Windsor/Twin Rivers here

That part. Good old Exit 8 :laugh:. My office is actually in Twin Rivers.

I'm always running into people that lived in Twin Rivers at one time or another. I have a theory that half the East Coast either: 1) was born in a Brooklyn hospital, 2) Graduated from Penn State, or 3) lived in Twin Rivers at one time. :D
12-08-2010, 18:45
^shane^

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataraftgirl

I'm really interested to see what you think about your 1.1 double experiment. I was in the same quandary when I ordered. My weight is right at the max flatness for the 1.1 double. I also wanted the olive green color. So I went 1.7 double. I also had Brandon make mine a custom with a right side zipper. I haven't been able to try mine out yet. I recently had knee surgery and we've had terrible weather lately (cold, snow, wind) so my BB hasn't "flown" yet. The talk about the knee ridge thing worries me, especially since I am committed to some weight lose also. Maybe I better tough it out and go put up the hammock in the yard to see what I experience.
Keep us updated on your findings.
KJ

I can get a majority of the knee ridge out of the 1.7 dbl if I hang it with the strap angles at about 40 degrees. I can also get a majority out if I hang the foot end 6-8" higher than the head end (with straps at about 30 degrees, but this just puts my feet to sleep after a couple of hours).

If the 1.1 dbl doesn't work out, my next step will be to change out the structural ridgeline to an adjustable line so I can shorten it a little - 1" to 2" at most - to see if that extra sag helps out. I'm afraid with that much sag, I'll be laying across the zipper though... I guess we'll see...:D
12-08-2010, 19:10
dant8ro

Extra sag does it for me. I had a problem with knee pressure the first night in the hammock, So I made the commitment to sleep in the thing for a solid two weeks. Bought an adjustable ridgeline from Whoopieslings.com and went to work. Only shortened it like 1-2 inches and managed to find that sweet spot. Now It's just like home. (For the record 1.7 DL and I weigh 195... seriously considered ordering a 1.1 DL or 1.7 SL just to see if I can turn a 10 into an 11)
12-26-2010, 18:18
drichi

I am looking for a little follow up on how this worked out for shane. I am thinking about changing my 1.1 dbl to an adjustable ridge line to try and stop the knee pressure, dave
12-26-2010, 18:28
hangnout

Quote:

Originally Posted by drichi

I am looking for a little follow up on how this worked out for shane. I am thinking about changing my 1.1 dbl to an adjustable ridge line to try and stop the knee pressure, dave

Before you change out the current ridgeline take a small carabiner and clip over the ridgeline. Start wrapping the the ridgeline cord around the biner to shorten the length of the ridgeline until you find a length that works. This is a quick way to test different lengths without changing to an adjustable ridgeline
12-26-2010, 19:27
drichi

thanks, thats a great idea. dave
12-26-2010, 19:43
Mustardman

I've found that leaving just the slightest bit of slack in the ridgeline will make any knee pressure go away right quick. You could probably shorten the ridgeline by a bit and accomplish the same thing.
12-27-2010, 11:17
body942

It's funny how sometimes we have similar questions but our individual dimensions drive us to a more particular answer; I just started a similar thread but will follow this one closely.
12-27-2010, 17:10
koaloha05

Adjustments to eliminate pressure.

I use the 1.1 WBBB and Traveler. BW is ~130#. Played around with an adjustable structural ridge line(srl). What I found out turned out to be opposite of what I thought would happen. Key to the adjustment is to make sure your suspension line is a set angle. This will set your loaded tension of the srl at a given tension. No variation to eliminate one variable. The unexpected result: Longer ridge line eliminated any calf pressure which was barely noticeable to begin with. Went as short as mid 90"s. I think the line ended up set around 103".
12-27-2010, 18:38
^shane^

Quote:

Originally Posted by drichi

I am looking for a little follow up on how this worked out for shane. I am thinking about changing my 1.1 dbl to an adjustable ridge line to try and stop the knee pressure, dave

Still waiting on delivery of my 1.1 BB (ordered 12-8...:unsure:).

Shortening my ridge line a bit (maybe an inch) on my 1.7 dbl helped a bit...
12-27-2010, 18:46
fin

More angle to the dangle

I've noticed with my heavier BB's that I need a lot more sag to eliminate the knee ridge, as others have mentioned. I just hang my straps higher on the tree, and leave a little sag in the ridgeline.