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TiredFeet
Funny, but those are the exact reasons we traded out the toggles for the Lanyard knot :scared::lol::D
:lol::lol: Different strokes... ;)
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Have you had any problem with the UCR letting go when touched under load?
Never. :confused: I'll admit to being a little surprised that y'all had had that issue. I've always been careful, though, with bury length and securing the sensitive tail of the UCR.
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We found that even with the tubing squeezing the UCR bury, it still had a tendency to let go when touched, even a light touch, under load.
I guess there must be something different in our setups, because I really haven't experienced that and will admit to being puzzled as to why y'all have had that issue.
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now granted that this isn't going to be something that happens often, but both of us have had our hammock suspensions rubbed by passing wildlife (both human and otherwise). When with others in a group, we have found that people moving between hammocks tend to duck under the suspension rather than walk around the tree. When doing so, it is very common, not to duck enough and brush the suspension with a shoulder or back. In our tests, even the slightest brush would cause the UCR to let go and when one lets go, it is a total failure.
Yeah I can see that's a concern, though not one I've had to deal with yet; guess I'll see, down the road. My latest setup seems pretty solid, though -- operative word being 'seems'. ;) Still, I feel pretty confident about it and have yet to suffer any let downs. Well, except for the time I got sloppy with one of those pseudo-slip knot free ends. <ouch!>
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We finally decided that the ONLY way to thwart the problem was to secure the free end as you and others have done with Prussics and shock cord or other methods. TeeDee has not been willing to go that route since it reminds him of the criticism that others had of the webbing and ring buckle suspension which needed the half hitch to secure. I agree with him.
I hear ya, though for me it's more an aesthetic issue than a practical one. At any rate, your idea to use elastic tubing was just what I needed. :jj:
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We just were not willing to go that route since the sole advantage of the UCR over the whoopie is the use of less rope and only marginally less rope at that. Adding in the Prussic or shock cord or whatever, just made the marginally less rope, even less so.
More 'different strokes', methinks. :D In my case, I like the aesthetics of the UCR. For me the weight differences aren't significant enough to worry about. What is it, half the weight of a chocolate chip cookie? :laugh: I'm being facetious, but then I'm not shooting for SUL. The only other thing I found annoying with the WS is its tendency to pop off a toggle when adjusting it; probably my clumsiness, but still it's ME I'm thinking of... ;)
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Using the toggle reduces the weight advantage of the UCR over the whoopie using lanyard knots. The weight advantage has probably shrunken to the point that I really wonder if working on the fatal flaw (fatal for us anyway) is a losing game.
Well, I'm with you there! :jj: There's not much bone left to gnaw on. :lol:
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Are we at his FINAL suspension :lol::scared::lol:
After saying that with each one of the above, I no longer even dream of that.:scared:
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He is currently at less than an ounce for the suspension using DynaGlide and can be used up a tree span of 21'.
If his next one improves on the ease of use and weight he may soon have it to less than 0.
Two words: helium balloons.... :boggle::lol:
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If you look closely at the pic I linked, you can see the hole in one end of a toggle where a cord was used to secure the toggle just as you did. That securing cord was ALWAYS a PITA and ALWAYS in the way. I guess you quickly discovered that also. :lol:
Heh heh... I guess there must be personality differences in play, too. For me it wasn't so much a PITA as it was a cost of doing things that way. :) My personal problem was the difficulty of using pre-arthritic old guy fingers trying to form the toggled link with interlocked loops in cold and rain with wind ballooning the hammock.
HYOH to all, but it's been a great trip covering all these bases together.
All the best! :jj: