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Alright guys I figure I have given you enough time to come out of your food coma and come down off your Hanging High. So here it is. January 10-12th '14.
Chesterfield Scout Camp. Same spot with the lean-to's and hopefully a lot of snow.
Looking for ideas to spice it up.
Dessert Cook-off
Raffle Items
Best camp gadget
etc etc etc.
you get the idea.
Let this discussin' start.
Sign up spreadsheet…
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Love you dear but it's 2014...
LOL, I believe he did the same thing for the fall NEHHA. I'm in fo sho.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilprincess
W00t! This is on the calendar.
McRat sightings are more common in winter anyways... ;)
Popovers.............
I'm in too. This will be my first winter hang.
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I'll be there, depending on vehicle situation, gonna freeze my butt off, but always wanted to try a hammock full of hot hands in winter.Quote:
Originally Posted by perrito
There will be no freezing of the butts. It's not as hard as you think. Wool socks, hot water bottles and insulated boots. Maybe a hammock sock. There is always hot water on the fire and the fire is always big.Quote:
Originally Posted by hk2001
I'm in.
Yep, car camping. You can bring all the warmth you need from home, and they'll be plenty of extra stuff there for you to use as well, this IS NEHHA!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by civetta
I will try to make it, as always it depends on availability of free time.
This would be my first winter hang. ...But it is NEHHA, so I wouldn't really be roughing it. :D
Dang........I already missed this coming winter hang er um last year.......I'm so confused.....:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by lilprincess
Kinda like writing the date as soon as the year changes. You never get it right the first, second or third time. :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogrillz
===> TOTALLY in! After last year, we had so much fun in the snow, there is NO WAY I will miss it!
For those who are worried about cold - do not! We will not allow you to freeze!
I may make a different version of Moroccan Goat Stew this time. Maybe.
This NEHHA is probably the most fun!
~ SkyPainter
I am in!
For anyone on the fence about a winter hang, please let us know why you are afraid of the cold. We have PLENTY of gear to pass around to keep you warm. AND as usual, I will be maintaining the fire…which means it will be big and hot! Anyone who has been there before will tell you about my fires. :D
Kilt and all!Quote:
Originally Posted by raiffnuke
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Originally Posted by JollyGreen
Yes sir!
A new Morocan Goat Stew? In that case were in. Friends, food and snow.
I am in and will be bringing my spicy red clam chowder. It's on the calendar!!
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Originally Posted by raiffnuke
I have 2 concerns: #1 vehicle wise, going anywhere in winter in this POS hyundai we've got is scary.. trying to resolve it before winter, but unlikely.
#2, I've never done winter camping, not on the ground, nor in a hammock. I can make myself a superfly knock off, pretty easily, and a hammock with an over cover, but without a decent quality TQ/UQ combo, I'm worried about literally freezing my butt off. But, on a brighter note, my head will be warm, with my "Raiffnuke Kill Kenny Hood" :lol::lol::lol:
Seriously though.. I love the hood, I wanna add a draft collar around the neck to seal it off better.:cool:
Well, depending on where you live, I am sure someone would be more than happy to carpool and give you a ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by hk2001
You could literally show up with nothing but clothes and we could outfit you for winter. That is not a problem. Some of us with plenty of winter experience can walk you thru what you can do to stay warm, and with a list of your gear we can tell you how to stay as warm as you can with your gear and what you should use to supplement your gear to have fun this winter. If you really want to hang this winter, we can make it happen! :D
I am glad you like the hood. I made it long enough to tuck into the collar of a jacket to seal out wind if needed.
We are in but it will be my first time Winter hammocking... Gone tenting several times.
I will need ideas to stay warm! I have a 0 degree UQ and TQ with some extra ounces of down each but I still have FL blood :rolleyes: I am using the 0 now if that gives you a place to start.
A layer of reflectex in your hammock will go a long ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunshower
And a UQ protector (easy to DIY or makeshift) is very helpful and from my experience adds 5-10* to your setup.
===> Hi! Well, when dressing for winter/cold weather, use the "3 W's" - Wicking, Warmth, and Weather. Same applies to sleeping in the hammock, where you can be WAY warmer than in a tent!Quote:
Originally Posted by sunshower
WICKING - get a good 'base layer'. It should wick any moisture away from your skin, especially when hiking, but also sleeping! NO. COTTON. ANYTHING! Cotton is a terrible insulator when wet! "Cotton Kills!' Is a standard saying in the outdoors. Polypropylene or better yet - Merino Wool are best. Buy a heavier, "Expedition Weight" base layer, top and bottom.
WARMTH - Over your base layer, you can add one or more layers for warmth, depending on how you perceive cold. Fleece or wool flannel layers really amp-up the heat and retention, and layers can be vented or removed for comfort, and more importantly, moisture control! Wet plus cold = not so fun, and potentially dangerous.
WEATHER - lightweight, breathable, water proof shells over the base and warmth layers keep wet and cold out, and warmth in.
APPLIED TO THE HAMMOCK - same concepts! Wear minimally the base layer to bed. Too many clothes don't allow your body heat to heat-up the air spaces in the down. Base and one fleece or wool layer should suffice with a good TQ/UQ combo. Good TQ, hammock body, maybe a Reflectix pad, either between the hammock layers or the hammock and you, or even better, a fleece blanket or layer of some sort will keep you well insulated from any cold, Good full-length UQ. Downy goodness!
An UQ protector to keep snow, possibly wet off of the UQ also adds another layer to retain heat. You will be wrapped in a warm, warm, Burrito in the hammock!
Wicking, Warmth, And Weather...three keys to comfort in the cold!
We can help show you. It is not as hard as it seems, and is a beautiful experience in the woods!
Here's last year:
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Please come!!!
~ SkyPainter
I have never done a winter hang but if i can talk the wife into it i want to give it a go, we both have uqs rated to -15, but our tqs are just 20 degree mummys,
Got arthitis in both knees but i try not to let it stop me, gonna spend alot of time at the fire i guess, it just sounds like too much of a good time to pass up!
Your UQ is more important than your TQ. it is very easy to compensate for warmth on top, but much harder to compensate for the bottom. With an UQ rated that low, you should be plenty warm. We can help adjust your UQ so there are no gaps and you will be toasty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saedy
I Think i will take you up on that!Quote:
Originally Posted by raiffnuke
I will look into the reflectix. I also have sil uncoated sock from Dream Hammocks.
I'll be there for sure! I'll also bring an extra hammock, UQ, and roll of 24" wide refletix. Nighthauk, do you want the 3 burner stove I brought to the summer hang again?
===> Can't have enough Reflectix or enough stoves in the winter!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grey Eagle
~ Sky
Thats a fact!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyPainter
Yes, I will be more than happy to help adjust anyone's UQ if they think they would like me to look at it. There are much easier to adjust when you are in the hammock, than trying to adjust, get in, get out, adjust again...just to find out there is still a gap somewhere that leaks your heat out.
A sock, or a BBO for a WBBB will help out a bunch. I guess they will add another 5-10° to your setup. My BBO adds a ton of warmth to my hammock.
Reflectix works really well as a foot pad, sit pad, or as a full length pad between the layers in your hammock. I have successfully taken my 20° UQ down into single didgits comfortably with the addition of a reflextix pad.
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Originally Posted by raiffnuke
Where does one pickup a roll of reflectix, i have a dl and think sliding a peice in the full length might be a smart idea
I got mine at Lowes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saedy
Thank you, got one of those not too far from home...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by perrito
Most any hardware type store with ducting in it should have it.
where is this event? what state?
This is the winter NEHHA Hang in Chesterfield, MA.Quote:
Originally Posted by kayak karl
Pfff I'm in for sure. We could have a Reflectix Exhibit. Seriously the stuff works. Make cut outs for your boots,make vests, hats whatever. "Hot Hands" brand hand warmers work best, get the sticky kind to put on cameras and phones the cold kills batteries fast. Bring several layers to put on or take off as needed and have an extra pair of boots in the car for when the ones you have on fail. I picked up a pair of the NEOS overboots after last winters hang. There are tons of tips for staying warm depending on what we get. Its going to be a good time.
What exactly do you meen by UQ protector ?? Is the uqp best if placed between the hammock and uq or outside over the uq ? Anybody??Quote:
Originally Posted by raiffnuke
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I am in at this point. I put it on the calendar. But a lot can change in three months.
Where is the signup sheet. If you need me to create one for you, just let me know.
I'm with you! I'm a New England girl but my body does Not like the cold. I use my 0 UQ and TQ almost year round. I like the wind dock over the UQ and totally take the guys up on the offer of adjusting while you're in there. That makes such a big difference. I'd also recommend booties. Keeping those feet warm make all the difference. Neos over boots are great because you can wear the down booties inside them! And don't forget a hat. Wool or down are great. Keeps the hear inside you. I'm sure if you get cold all you'll have to do is say something and 8 people will be there with an idea to warm you up. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sunshower
An under quilt protector is like a shield that surrounds your UQ to protect it from splashing water and blocks wind from stealing your warmth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saedy
This is a link and picture from 2QZQ's website…
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I've Got this on the Calendar. Can't wait to do some rocking chair sledding again :D
If you and SkyPainter bring your chairs, we could have sledding chair races!Quote:
Originally Posted by R3l@x
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I hope to have snowshoes by then. Maybe a quick lesson and then a hike would be great as I haven't used any since my boy scout days, long, long, long ago.....Quote:
Originally Posted by raiffnuke
That is easy to accomplish. Of course it will depend on how much snow we will get by then.Quote:
Originally Posted by JollyGreen
I am tentatively in. I am getting laid off next Friday, but am going for a town position this Tuesday. I dont know if I will get the job, and, if I do, what my schedule will be. So, if I have the time off, I will be there.
As to worrying about being warm while sleeping, I probably had the most minimal setup last year: simply a 0 degree bag, with reflectix underneath. I put a water bottle filled with hot water in the sleeping bag about a half hour before bed, and slept warm both nights. So warm, I had the bag partially opened. I also wore nothing but wool layers. Never once did I get chilly. A word of advice to anyone coming though: wear WINTER boots. Not sneakers, not your usual hikers. We had several people last year that wore inappropriate footwear, and their feet got wet, and cold. Dont do that. To be honest, you are better off wearing flipflops (no lie-your feet will not freeze, as they arent contained in a cold, wet environment). So, please, think of your feet. Spending the entire weekend with your feet propped in front of a fire, although fun, doesnt allow you to get to explore, when your footwear is frozen solid.
I added it to my list to check into looks like a great time Maine guys like snow lol . New to this would be a test for sure lol. I need a UQ for sure. On my Christmas list maybe ???
See what is on plan .
Just so people understand, you do not need an UQ to be comfortable and warm in the winter, but is sure helps!Quote:
Originally Posted by mainewoods
A couple of pads and/or some reflectex will take you a long ways.
I was thinking my MSS?
===> Definitely bringing my rocker to race! It's back in the truck someplace, but I have faith that 'Francois' will offer it back up when we need it!Quote:
Originally Posted by raiffnuke
~ Sky