I've got some amsteel and have been thinking about using it to make soft shackles to connect my tree straps. In theory it would work the same as a Dutch clip right? Anyone have any experience with this?
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I've got some amsteel and have been thinking about using it to make soft shackles to connect my tree straps. In theory it would work the same as a Dutch clip right? Anyone have any experience with this?
They work just fine and you can't beat the weight. However, they do take two hands to close and cinch them, whereas a Dutch clip simply hooks over the strap.
Yeah Dutch clips seem like a better way to go I'm just interested in the soft shackle because I already have the amsteel laying aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by MAD777
I agree with MAD777. They do work great. I have never had Dutch clips but there is the drawback of having to use two hands if that is a drawback to you. I actually like the hybrid of soft shackle/loop shackle for this purpose because you don't have to milk the bury.
Check out this tutorial: http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_9.php
I agree with the others... it would work, wouldn't it just be easier to feed the strap through the eye on the webbing though?
Some folks set up their suspension to be one continuous system that does not detach from the hammock , so you need a way to attach the part that goes around the tree. It's impossible to forget the straps that way. I used to do that and am considering doing it again with my UCR's.Quote:
Originally Posted by craige
I use both for different hammocks.The dutch clips work really well for me,but I also carry a soft shackle to hang my pack from the suspension.
Its nice to have a back up if needed,soft shackles are fun to learn and use.
One other thing to think about is using the soft shackles in the cold are a pain when you have gloves on, or have cold/freezing fingers especially after they have been sitting all night. While a Dutch Clip is much easier to use in that type of situation.
I use soft shackles in that way. I like having spares on my suspension and it saves wear and tear on the loops in my straps.
I use soft shackles as well. They conform to the shape of the tree, with a metal clip you have to line the suspension up properly so the clip is not stressed, and the tree is not damaged.
I like that reasoning! Thanks Great WhiteQuote:
Originally Posted by Great White
I've used both and like soft shackles better. They are a bit lighter and will do less damage over time to your straps.
True, the clips are a little quicker to attach, but it's a fair trade off for me.
I like making stuff like soft shackles. They work great and I like using stuff I made.
Not sure they're perceptably lighter than the Ti Dutchclips though. And the clips are easier. Mine never touch the trees, though it crossed my mind they might.
Have used soft shackles for about 3 years with no problems. I never take them off the tree straps, just throw them in the stuff sack.
I have used both. Last trip, I used my Dutch clips (which do require two hands). I always have a soft shackle or two hanging on my backpack and use them for this or that.Quote:
Originally Posted by michaeldoe62
However, I think Neo has convinced me to switch to simply passing one end of the tree strap through the loop on the other end, then doing a "knot" (a "Marlin Spike Hitch") with a twist of the wrist and some magic and it holds a marlin spike (aka toggle) wherever I want, for the whoopie sling to slip over.
No shackles, no clip, no nothing, and infinitely adjustable.
Video of the "knot" I'm talking about.
Rain Man
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I use nacrabieners instead of dutch clips, but that's cause I had 100 feet of amsteel and was playing around with different setups.
-Loki
hey RAIN MANQuote:
Originally Posted by Rain Man
thanks for the link to your SHORT video
simple solutions, presented this way sure make life easier for us CHRONOLOGICALLY ADVANCED CREPITATIONS
I HATE HAVING TO RE-INVENT "THE WHEEL"!!! (the $poke$ are expen$ive...)
sw
I think there was a thread about using a soft shackle a year or so ago this way. The individual had a problem getting the soft shackle undone while taking his hammock down. He ended up having to cut the soft shackle. I think it was cold and raining out. I could not find the thread. Anyone else have a issue like this?
Yeah, I find soft shackles to be a PITA myself even the slightest weight of a hanging hammock can make it more difficult to get undone.Quote:
Originally Posted by steinerj