Newbie question about HH Hex Fly and Skins

I just got my HH Hex Rain Fly today and I am trying to figure out the easiest way to stow and deploy it (getting back into the sack it comes with is an exercise in frustration).

My plan is to hang the tarp from an Arrowhead "Tarp Ridge Line "Simple Single" - Carabiner" ridge line.

Skins look like the way to go but I am not clear on whether or not skins will work with this type of ridge line and how small of a package the tarp and skins will make when packed up (I have a small pack and size is important).

Any feedback on what other HH Hex Rain Fly owners are using and techniques for getting the tarp down to as small a size as possible would be hugely appreciated.

I skin my HH Hex. Fold it in half twice, wrap ridgeline around to secure. Bundle get strapped to the outside of my pack. I do not want a wet tarp inside my pack. In a side pocket under the compression straps to balance the water bottle in the other side pocket.

Works for me.

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Originally Posted by Jayson

I skin my HH Hex. Fold it in half twice, wrap ridgeline around to secure. Bundle get strapped to the outside of my pack. I do not want a wet tarp inside my pack. In a side pocket under the compression straps to balance the water bottle in the other side pocket.

Works for me.

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That is kind of what I was thinking. Which skins do you use?

Not much different than a stock tarp.

http://youtu.be/Y8Es_mzdkAU

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Originally Posted by Roche

Not much different than a stock tarp.

http://youtu.be/Y8Es_mzdkAU

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That is a good video. I am still unclear on how well that works with a tarp hooked up using this method:

http://theultimatehang.com/wp-conten...carabiners.jpg

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Originally Posted by cvitter

I just got my HH Hex Rain Fly today and I am trying to figure out the easiest way to stow and deploy it (getting back into the sack it comes with is an exercise in frustration).

My plan is to hang the tarp from an Arrowhead "Tarp Ridge Line "Simple Single" - Carabiner" ridge line.

Skins look like the way to go but I am not clear on whether or not skins will work with this type of ridge line and how small of a package the tarp and skins will make when packed up (I have a small pack and size is important).

Any feedback on what other HH Hex Rain Fly owners are using and techniques for getting the tarp down to as small a size as possible would be hugely appreciated.

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One solution to the problem:

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...t=65516&page=6

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Originally Posted by sargevining

One solution to the problem:
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...t=65516&page=6

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A bigger pack? LOL. That would make packing easier. I admit I to wondering whether or not I should have gotten the GoLite Jam 70L instead of the 35L but right now my goal is to get 1 or 2 nights out of a small, light pack.

I am impressed by your system too. Re-reading your post a few times it seems like you have it well thought out now. I am going to try and plan my pack half as well as that and give it few trial runs in the back yard before I hit the trail.

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Originally Posted by cvitter

A bigger pack? LOL. That would make packing easier. I admit I to wondering whether or not I should have gotten the GoLite Jam 70L instead of the 35L but right now my goal is to get 1 or 2 nights out of a small, light pack.

I am impressed by your system too. Re-reading your post a few times it seems like you have it well thought out now. I am going to try and plan my pack half as well as that and give it few trial runs in the back yard before I hit the trail.

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The pack is a custom made from Zimmerbuilt, cost is just a bit higher than a good UL pack, but designed for hammock carriage. I found that skins were too stiff to pack well. Even when folded over on themselves, there's a lot of air in there that could otherwise be filled with stuff. I tried lashing them to the outside of the pack, but that only worked so well, took a while to get done right, and I was always worried about them falling off. Stuffing them in the pack without skins partially solved the problem of the airspace, but when I'd add a TQ and UQ I'd end up with a full pack and little room for food or fuel. The solution seemed to be to just take them out of the pack, but put them some place where they could be stuffed in loosely. Since everything is deployed in a linear fashion, long narrow pockets seemed like the answer. So far its working well.

I just use the snake skins that HH sent with my hammock.

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Originally Posted by cvitter

That is a good video. I am still unclear on how well that works with a tarp hooked up using this method:

http://theultimatehang.com/wp-conten...carabiners.jpg

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I think I see your problem - where do the skins go? When deploying the tarp the skins will be on it so the biners will not be a problem. When you pull the skins back they will go over the biners out of the way. When packing the skins slide off the biners back over the tarp before any disconnections are done.

You really want the tarp outside of your pack. If it's wet you do not want the water inside. If it's dry but going to rain you want it out first without getting the rest wet so you can set up the tarp to get out of the rain under first then set up the rest.

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Originally Posted by cvitter

That is a good video. I am still unclear on how well that works with a tarp hooked up using this method:

http://theultimatehang.com/wp-conten...carabiners.jpg

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You would need to tweak the system. Here is one way with an emphasis on quick and easy set up: put a Dutch Hock on one end of the line; prusik loops for the tarp ends; prusik a Dutch Tarp Flyz on the other side of the tarp. To set up first clip the Dutch Hook then tie off the tarp to the other tree using the Dutch Tarp Flyz, sliding it on the prusik to find the right length. Then center the tarp with the two tarp prusiks. To take down, roll up the tarp, slide the snakeskins, remove the line from the Dutch Tarp Flyz, unclip the line from the Dutch Hook. Or you could simply tie the line to the trees and center the tarp with two prusik loops.

Thanks all, I think I have it now. The only question left is which skins to get. Right now I have it narrowed down to the Hennessy skins or the MountainGoat Mesh sleeves.

Oh well bought the HH skins and bundled that order with a couple of titanium stakes for the tarp at the same time... LOL