one more question about underquilts.............is there a way to make a synthetic underquilt without cutting "darts" into the insulation? :confused:
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one more question about underquilts.............is there a way to make a synthetic underquilt without cutting "darts" into the insulation? :confused:
What type of hammock do you have? If it's a bridge style hammock, the underquilt construction becomes trivial as it is just a rectangle of the size you desire.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebo
Have you taken a look at the DIY KickAssQuilt instructions for details. I don't believe there are any darts in it. Don't quote me on that as I haven't reviewed the directions in detail.
Cheers
Brian
I have a DIY speer hammock, and yes I have looked at the KA quilt plan----he uses darts, but they are on the side instead of at the ends like most quilts. I would like to avoid darts, because in my experiance, they tend to pull apart and seperate, leaving cold spots. (I had this happen with a sleeping quilt I made) I would like to keep the insulation all in one piece if at all possible.
if you are making a 1/2 or similar you could probably get away without darts. bu i dont know
I have made multiple quilts (used as both TQ/UQ) using synthetic insulation.
My sewing skills are suspect at best, so I never put any darts in my quilts and have never had any issues.
As far as construction, here is a link to a website here
KAQ instruction are helpful also. Just ignore the dart section and shape your quilt as you wish.
hope that helps
Depending on the length of your underquilt, couldn't you just cut an appropriate shape in the flat materials to approximate the 3D shape when it will be installed? Imagine creating a cone from a piece of paper.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebo
Cheers
Brian
The problem with covering a hammock is that it's a compound curve. It's curving in two, perpendicular directions. The only way to cover it, without any gathers, is to remove some material - that's where the darts come in.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianWillan
Jerry
what weight Climashield UQ (and at what temps) are you using Jerry?Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryW
It just dawned on me why you advocate darts...:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryW
I was looking at your pic gallery and noticed your hammock is a HH clone.
Darting would be very helpful around single point pull outs (like a HH has). The single point creates a very sharp angle that a non-darted UQ would have troubles staying snug against.
Non of my non-darted UQs have been used on a single point. blackbirds use a double point that eliminates the sharp angle and my DIY have no pull outs at all.
So, IMO, darts are un-necessary unless your using a hammock that uses a single pull out (like a Hennessy)
I'm using Climashield Combat with Momentum90 for the fabric. It's some that I had left over from a top quilt I made a couple of years ago. In a tent (:eek:) the top quilt was only good to mid-50's for me. In a hammock, with that top quilt and a Combat underquilt, I've been warm in the low 40's so far. Testing will continue as the temps drop this fall.Quote:
Originally Posted by animalcontrol
I'm really anxious to see a BB in person. Would the ultra flat lay more closely resemble a bridge hammock, as far as underquilts are concerned?Quote:
Originally Posted by animalcontrol
Jerry
I have used my TQ/UQ using Climashield Combat down to 30*f but felt I was pushing the limits, good luck with your testingQuote:
Originally Posted by JerryW
IMO, UQs on the BB are "different" (not worse or better) because of the more distinct diagonal. I use a 2/3 UQ + ccf pad under my legs in all seasons...(my winter UQ is cut asym) it just works better for me. A full length UQ is tricky around the footbox.
Compared to a bridge (I also have a BMBH), my winter Warbonnet Yeti is diff/asym cut and doesn't fit a bridge as well as a gathered end hammock. My other rectangle cut UQs work equally well 3 seasons. The rectangle bridge is easy to fit a rectangle UQ on. Again IMO, a bridge would not work well with darted UQs
So..............if Im understanding the whole concept correctly, with a Speer type hammock (non asym, no pull outs) I dont really need darts. Is that why people make "coffin" shaped quilts?
IMO, no. My UQs have worked fine down to 20ish*F without darts on hammocks without single point pulloutsQuote:
Originally Posted by stevebo
The main reason to shape like a coffin is to save weight by cutting out fabric around your legsQuote:
Originally Posted by stevebo