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I know I have read it somewhere, but I cannot find it again. What is the best way to store the cuben tarp? I have no intention of stuffing or using skins, but how exactly do you take it down and store from the wilds?
I have tried a couple of times, but always seem to fold it too big, even when the first fold is small. I don't want to roll, as the stuff sack is flat and square.
Suggestions?
this what you're looking for?
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ht=fold&page=2
I setup a cuben tarp yesterday to test folding. Start by detaching one end from tree. I took that end & folded about a 12" section - was pulling on it to keep it tight as I folded.. continued to fold - sort of like a map. Once I got to the other end.. I detached that. lied it on the ground & continued to fold till it fit in stuff sack. clear as mud eh?
just found the pic - hope it works.
I started from the doorway - folded in - then folded over again to the other side - kept going till I got to the other end.. seemed easy & worked for me. curious too how others attack it?
https://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.ne...4v2AL4zuIKbIE_
that will work, just keep folding until it fits the stuff sack. I would change it up over time since you shouldn't fold it the same way everytime...or so they say...ever wonder who they is ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowAlpha
I just roll mine up to the ridgeline and secure the roll with two pieces of shock cord on cord locks, then stuff it in a stuff sack. No problems yet.
I have three titanium D-rings on my ridge line tie outs, one at each end and one in the middle. I use a CRL so fold it into quarters whilst still hung, drop one end off the tree and then drop the tarp to the ground and fold it as narrow as my stuff sack. Then I just roll down from the ridgeline to the bottom, pushing the air out as I go.
Just flatten the roll and then it slips in the stuff sack nicely, easy to deploy the nest time too. I hank my CRL into to two figure 8 loops around my thumb and little finger.
Thanks, but it was one I read a few months ago. Thanks for the tips. Sorry your picture source is blocked by the firewall/filter at work, so I can't see it, but I appreciate your description.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowAlpha
I just got my new cuben tarp, and I have only set it up 2x inside to rig it with guys. The last time I tried it, it was better than the first, but I am headed out in the morning for a weekend of hiking and hanging. Just trying to figure it out beforehand as much as possible...
That's what I do as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by dangerous
Are you's referring to storing while hiking?
What about at home. Do you leave your Cuben Tarp folded in it's pouch or pack out of pouch?
On the Trail I use snake skins
At home I fold it loosely and store it in one of those huge tupper wear bins drawers that I use to organize all my gear and every couple of weeks I take it out shake it out and refold it on different creases. Yes I am a bit OCD about my gear.
As soon I read this I taken my tarp out of its pouch and unfolded it and placed on my bed. I've got a storage container I use to store my camping gear, thanks for the tip.Quote:
Originally Posted by lazy river road
But I wonder, being cuben does it really matter if it's stored folded?
When I say fold its more of a fold/stuff simply so it fits in the drawer its not neat or anything like that. I keep it looseQuote:
Originally Posted by Phillipsart
So it is bad to stuff cuben into a stuff sack?
This is the question. I'm very keen to hear an answer to.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoovegroover
There's not a lot of info out there on Cuben Fiber. I've read somewhere that it's not effected to UV light, I hope it's true, because where I live there's a lot of UV.
Being that the Cuben Tarps are so expensive, it's wise to get as long a life as possible, Would be great to hear from someone that knows a bit about Cuben Fiber, in particular the Cuben used on the Hammock Gear Cuben Tarps.
I know some materials are susceptible to damage on the folds if left folded for a long time, but does Cuben come into this class?
I wrote to Joe at Zapacks. I have one of his tents and tarps...for my hammock, ok! Anyway - when I hear back from him regarding the care of cuben, I will report back to you guys.
I emailed the question to the manufacturer, Cubic Tech; if they reply I'll post the response.
So I wrote to Joe at Zpacks and this is what he had to say:
"Hey joe - is it bad for the cuben tarp and tent I have to stuff them into stuff sacks? When I got them they were folded and rolled but now they are just stuffed into their packs...not sure if that is a big deal but. I don't want to mess up my awesome new gear!
Thanks,
Nick"
"Hi Nick,
I don't think it will hurt the material any.
No one has ever reported a problem and I'm sure many others stuff them.
Best regards,
Joe Valesko
www.zpacks.com"
So there ya go.
FWIW, I stuff mine into a bishop bag to make it easy to deploy / pack. I noticed it was difficult to stuff when new but has become easier to pack after a few stuffs into the pack. Despite that, I like the idea of starting at one end with the tarp folded in half lengthwise and while leaving the far side still attached to the ridge line to keep the material taut and off the ground, folding it in 12" sections until I get to the other side where I can then detach it from the ridge and roll up the folded 'strip'. Will probably produce a 12"x4"dia. cylinder. I think this technique was mentioned early in this thread.
I read somewhere on another post, that Hammock Gear recommend to Fold and not stuff.
Get's very confusing, one says one thing the other says the opposite.
Would love to hear from Hammock Gear on this matter in why he recommends to fold and not stuff the cuben into it's pouch.
I know this...as I keep my cuben tarp,,either stuffed into a bishop sack by Zpacks, or a set of snake skins from WL..either way,,it always gets hanged and the wrinkles come out and its flat after a hour or so of hanging,,it hangs tight every time. no stretch, and stays water proof and wears great..and the wrinkles pop right out after a hour or so. It is what I expect of my cuben tarp and works great for me. I think we all worry alittle due to the expense we have put out for a great piece of gear! :) Who is to say that 5-10 years from now, we were the testers of cuben tarps, learning the ways of using it and such,,and what will we be using then?
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Exactly!!
I've been eyeing a cuben tarp from HG and I'd like to know this too. I don't have any cuben gear yet so I don't know the material. But I'd like to use it the same way I use my current tarp (bishop bag).Quote:
Originally Posted by Phillipsart
only problem I have folding it,,is folding and creasing it the same all the time. I would think stuffing it and not creating constant same creases over and over would be any worse for wear myself. I have heard stuffing,,and folding, and this and that, and for that matter,,I am not sure that anyone really knows the answer for sure. Some people have had their cuben tarps for a long time,,and shows no wear no matter what way you do it also. I could also add,,,if you fold your cuben tarp, you have maybe 50 creases in it or maybe alittle more..if you stuff it,,you have 10,000 creases in it. Creases are creases,,which one is going to fail or create a abrasive spot in the tarp? :)
I roll mine up ..then fold ..then stuff it .. many many times..with no problems .. I have a bunch of stuffs sack made from the stuff ...roll top dry bags ..never had any problems ...while testing a prototype made from .51 .. I intentionally abused it ... without it failing .. Cubans Achilles is when it's sewn .. other then that ..it seems to just get better ..
I have been folding mine.