All Tarps are 2 Pole Ready

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03-31-2013, 08:01
sr1355

All Tarps are 2 Pole Ready

All tarps are now shipping with two pole mod installed. You just need to order correct poles, add pole stabilizer and setup. Here is picture of poles installed in H12, one end only. Installed on both ends these provide for a rock solid tarp in high winds. Notice location of poles in relationship to tarp panel pull outs.

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Due to poles running at slight inward angle you will need to prevent pole from tipping. Add short length of cord attached to pole then ran to ridge line guy out.

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9/32" double sided grommets installed on tarp side guy outs allow you to add locking tip poles easily. Poles and stabilizer cord are not included and are to be provided by end user.

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Center pole mods are available at nominal cost of $15, just email us to add to your tarp order. We will include pole lengths needed with your shipment or via email prior to shipping if desired.
03-31-2013, 11:04
ShroominDave

Could you take a picture of the ridgeline attachment I do not quite understand how it attaches to keep the pole from shifting. Thanks
03-31-2013, 11:08
DivaB

Very nice looking Paul!
03-31-2013, 11:48
sr1355

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Originally Posted by ShroominDave

Could you take a picture of the ridgeline attachment I do not quite understand how it attaches to keep the pole from shifting. Thanks

Pretty simple, we used a 48" length of 1/16" cord, tied loop on one end and attached to pole with small biner. You could attach with larks head as well. Then take loose end and run through eyelet on ridge line guy out. Attach cord lock so you can draw pole into position by taking slack up. Need one at each end for corresponding pole.

Let me know if that clears it up for you.

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Originally Posted by DivaB

Very nice looking Paul!

Thanks Diva, always looking to add value without adding cost.
03-31-2013, 11:59
Fixxr5

Would a loop of webbing or grosgrain, sewn on the ridgeline inside the tarp to run pole through, work?
I'm looking at that tarp and don't want any more cords than absolutely necessary, just due to fiddle factor.
04-01-2013, 06:40
sr1355

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Originally Posted by Willjack1967

Would a loop of webbing or grosgrain, sewn on the ridgeline inside the tarp to run pole through, work?
I'm looking at that tarp and don't want any more cords than absolutely necessary, just due to fiddle factor.

We do provide a GG loop for the center pole mod. This center pole stands vertically so it only needs minor support to prevent it from tipping. The two end poles sit on a pretty good angle to provide the best support. Using the GG loop method results in the pole pulling on the ridge seam stitching. This pulling creats a small depression on the ridge seam as well as stress on the stitching. Water could pond in the resulting depression and wick through stressed stitching. The end poles could be install vertically but would offer minor support compared to the slanted installation.

Another option would be to install the poles in a "X" configuration. This would provide great internal support for heavy winds and snow. It would also open the interior of the tarp up creating a roomy space under the tarp
04-01-2013, 06:49
Brute1100

Re: All Tarps are 2 Pole Ready

That 'X' formation sounds super interesting... Have any pictures of it... Although I have to say that's getting really close to being a tent...
04-01-2013, 07:34
Caveman

Very nice.
04-01-2013, 08:21
sr1355

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Originally Posted by Brute1100

That 'X' formation sounds super interesting... Have any pictures of it... Although I have to say that's getting really close to being a tent...

That's part of the goal to provide options for a ground setup for those sleeping on the ground or in the event there are no suitable trees :(:eek::(. While our tarps can be set up pup tent style or other options on the ground the addition of the poles in either configuration really increase the overall interior space and sturdiness of the tarp whether hanging or on the ground. Here's a pup tent pic, no poles but we will be taking more pics and posting as we get time....

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PUP TENT STYLE w/ trekking poles
04-01-2013, 09:13
Fixxr5

Tarps

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Originally Posted by sr1355

We do provide a GG loop for the center pole mod. This center pole stands vertically so it only needs minor support to prevent it from tipping. The two end poles sit on a pretty good angle to provide the best support. Using the GG loop method results in the pole pulling on the ridge seam stitching. This pulling creats a small depression on the ridge seam as well as stress on the stitching. Water could pond in the resulting depression and wick through stressed stitching. The end poles could be install vertically but would offer minor support compared to the slanted installation.

Another option would be to install the poles in a "X" configuration. This would provide great internal support for heavy winds and snow. It would also open the interior of the tarp up creating a roomy space under the tarp

Love the small guys. Always on the ball! Keep up the great work.:thumbup1:
07-17-2013, 13:17
bassaholic

Pole Config for Winter Dream 12 Tarp

Anyone modded their WD12 with the two pole setup yet? Looking for pole lengths if you know- thanks in advance!
07-17-2013, 16:45
Kerrkid

All tarps come pole mod ready that's awesome paul can't wait to see what you come up with next...

I see a new winter tarp in my future....
07-19-2013, 06:42
Acer

Paul,,,do you provide the poles to sell with the tarp?
07-19-2013, 07:05
sr1355

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Originally Posted by Acer

Paul,,,do you provide the poles to sell with the tarp?

We sure can provide them if some one would like them. They are not cheap once you figure parts, shipping, and minor charge to assemble.
07-21-2013, 17:52
Craigthor

Sent an email with other questions but how much would the 2 poles add to the cost. You guys are one of the few to use Orange 1.1 as an option.

Also any chance a tarp could be made from the orange 1.1 instead of black or olive?
07-22-2013, 07:08
sr1355

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Originally Posted by Craigthor

Sent an email with other questions but how much would the 2 poles add to the cost. You guys are one of the few to use Orange 1.1 as an option.

Also any chance a tarp could be made from the orange 1.1 instead of black or olive?

We do have access to Tangerine Silnylon, the 1.1 fabric we use for quilts would not be a suitable fabric for a tarp. We would need to order in the correct fabric but it is available, we replied to your email with a more detailed response. For Easton Expedition Grade Pole the cost is $45/pole assembled with stuff sack to be shipped with tarps.
07-22-2013, 08:56
L.D. Cakes

Are those fiberglass poles or carbon fiber? I'm partial to carbon fiber and am willing to pay extra. I am going to purchase a new tarp before this fall and hoping for a winter tarp with a center pole only.
07-22-2013, 09:04
sr1355

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Originally Posted by L.D. Cakes

Are those fiberglass poles or carbon fiber? I'm partial to carbon fiber and am willing to pay extra. I am going to purchase a new tarp before this fall and hoping for a winter tarp with a center pole only.

Those prices are for alum but we have access to CF as well. CF poles would run about $60/ea including stuff sack. CF Pole section would be 17" long, alum pole sections are 13" long.
07-22-2013, 09:14
L.D. Cakes

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Originally Posted by sr1355

Those prices are for alum but we have access to CF as well. CF poles would run about $60/ea including stuff sack. CF Pole section would be 17" long, alum pole sections are 13" long.

That's perfect! I paid 50 for my last 2 sets and had to wait 3 months because I was a single order and they put me on low priority. I am more than willing to pay 10 bucks extra to get it promptly! THANKS!! :cool:
07-22-2013, 09:37
OutandBack

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr1355

All tarps are now shipping with two pole mod installed. You just need to order correct poles, add pole stabilizer and setup. Here is picture of poles installed in H12, one end only. Installed on both ends these provide for a rock solid tarp in high winds. Notice location of poles in relationship to tarp panel pull outs.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...19726249_n.jpg

Due to poles running at slight inward angle you will need to prevent pole from tipping. Add short length of cord attached to pole then ran to ridge line guy out.

What a great looking tarp and I love black because I like to sleep in.

How about offering some GG ribbon sewn on the inside at the pullouts so you could tie off the poles at two locations?
That might be better than tying at the RL.

Only example I have of a two ribbon attachment but hopefully you get the idea.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/8...bd7d1238_z.jpg
09-05-2013, 20:43
L.D. Cakes

I just ordered my Winter Dream 12! Paul & Missy are great to work with & I had special requests. I'm doing the center pole mod and soon as I get it I'll send pics! I saved for this a long time, I'm so excited!:D
09-15-2013, 14:22
tritan

All Tarps are 2 Pole Ready

Two pole mod is the mod for the pole threw the middle? Now standard?
09-15-2013, 15:06
sr1355

Quote:

Originally Posted by tritan

Two pole mod is the mod for the pole threw the middle? Now standard?

That would be center pole mod and it is an option available for selection with your order.
09-15-2013, 15:07
sr1355

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.D. Cakes

I just ordered my Winter Dream 12! Paul & Missy are great to work with & I had special requests. I'm doing the center pole mod and soon as I get it I'll send pics! I saved for this a long time, I'm so excited!:D

Heading your way tomorrow LD, thanks for your support...:)
09-15-2013, 19:31
L.D. Cakes

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Originally Posted by sr1355

Heading your way tomorrow LD, thanks for your support...:)

Woo Hoo! I'll be stalking the mail box!:)
09-15-2013, 19:38
DeRozea

for those using crl under the tarp you can just tie an alpine butterfly loop/knot into the cord. run the pole straight through the loop. haven't tried it myself but looking forward to free time. have enough tent poles to use. easy to take them apart and adjust the lengths until I get the desired effect.
the "x" pattern is starting to seem more and more like a tent fly.