But, I'm sure you don't have the abundant shoulder room that you had with the wide Neo Air. So how is that working out? If your at all like me, you have got to the point where you say " OK, it forces my shoulders into a curved position and I need my arms on my chest like Ed Sullivan ( any one know what I refer to? ), but who cares, I'm still comfy". Or then again, I just quickly turn on my side even if just a little.
As a top quilt, I had a standard -20 F winter bag [MARMOT]. Along with a winter set-up of my JRB 10x11 tarp, I had plenty of remaining temperature margin.
One of the most underated aspects of the symmtrical design of the JRB BMBH, is the fact that with only a few pieces of gear I have enough insulation for a huge range of temps. Traditional sleeping bags work well as TQ in the BMBH. Traditional rectangular quilts [i.e. "non-differential cut"] can be used as either TQs or UQs. UQs can be doubled with ease.
Just a ton of flexibility and very little fiddle factor when it comes to suspending the UQ(s).
I mix and match the following:
- neoair all season pad
- mid weight fleece liner
- hudson river quilt
- old rag mountain quilt
- 3 season bag
- winter sleeping bag
Ever try and fit a lightweight partner in there with you?
Had mine out last Presidents Day weekend with this same set up in 7F weather and winds at 20mph. I have a 30F bag that I sleep inside the hammock. No problems except my nose. Warm without an UQ. It is doable.
Had to end our hike after two days because we could not keep water from freezing. But I was warm in my BMBH.
Now that you all have had a good cold winter to try out this setup I am wondering. How low did you go over the winter with just the Neoair pad in the BMBH? What did you do to go lower? I see several different suggestions and combinations listed in this thread so what worked? Have you encountered any new twists that might change your opinion about this combination?
This setup just sounds so cool and comfortable I am about positive that I need to purchase both :rolleyes:
Thanks again chewbacca for this great thread. :cool:
Stayed warm down to mid 30s with this setup. haven't yet tried anything lower yet. Used a high sierra TQ
I was getting cool bellow 30. I am a cold sleeper so others may be able to take it lower. This is a comfortable set up, and would recommended it. I ended up finding the bmbh with a 3/4 underquilt to be my set up choice now. With the Neo air it is like sleeping on a floating air mattress, but for me being a colder sleeper I found that the underquilt provided more warmth on all sides. They both have their pros and cons. Nice to have the options.