Just decided to try it. Sort of a "why not?" thing.
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Both examples that I recently published work with a "figure-8" design, so the ridge line is not fixed to the tree at all. In this way, the line can slide back and forth on itself since the end points are attached back to the tarp.
You may just have to try it to believe it, I know that others have had the same reaction, even when I published the video showing how it works.
Leave the line slightly loose so you can easily slide the tarp back and forth to center. Once centered, you can tighten the tarp completely.
Now, the version with the DutchWare Stingerz/Tarp Flyz, while similar in the basic figure-8 design, requires you to be present at the Stingerz/Tarp Flyz side to make the slide adjustment because once you set the tension on the hardware, you can't slide it any more.
I pictured the line tight and was having a hard time imagining it moving easily once around the trees, even when loose it seems it would grab the tree and not allow for easy movement. But the first video clearly shows you moving it easily so I'm fresh out of dumb ideas. I wasn't able to set up my little test last night but after sleeping on it, I think it makes sense.
Thanks :D
1. They stay on just fine ... stitched or not .. I don't .. and have never had them "fall off'' .. I use a red (red is head) cord lock on my bags.
2. They will work great as tie-outs .. I have used them onto my stakes as well.
I found 9' (nine) works great for any purpose, porch mode, un-even ground, tying to logs, rocks, branches, etc.
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Prussics on the CRL work nicely .. I used this method until Dutch turned me onto the Stingerz .. I now use one on each tie-out of the RL. It's faster, easier with gloves on, allows a ''V'' so your hammock suspension can pass through (in nasty weather you can get your tarp very tight to your hammock), they are easily removed to use for any tarp.
3. They do work with the 1.25 ... but it is a sheathed cord and they will cut through .. rendering the Zline useless .. I love the 1.25 .. but it just doesn't work with the Flyz & Stingerz .. it's overkill but use the 1.75.
Joe's 1.25 ( Zpacks Zline) is sheathed.
Dutch, I'm a newcomer to hammocks but Hubby's been hanging for several years now. I got a new-to-me Warbonnet Blackbird single for my birthday in November.
Today, we went out to field-test our new packs, and I practiced putting up my hammock and tarp. By myself. I'd been pretty worried, since I'm not exactly an expert at knots, and arthritis makes my fingers a bit wonky...but the worry passed quickly! It went well, really simple, thanks to the Dutchware my ol man has gotten from you. Thank you!