Thanks. I will go take a peek.
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Dang, not sure I want a 3/4 length. I've got a lot of coverage issues!
I have the SS on my explorer deluxe. The undercover stays on permanently, the pad gets rolled and put back in it's bag. I've never had problems getting it back in there. I also stuff a tarp from my sons cub into the top of the bag with it. The undercover gets wrapped in the snake skins with the hammock.
I find the SS comfortable down to about 4*C with just the pad. I've used a windshield reflector on top of that down to about -4*C and was pretty comfortable. After that, you're just carrying extra stuff to insulate better, and would be better off with a proper UQ at that point IMO.
Just spent 6 nights in my HH Expedition with the HG Incubator 20. Had ~3 nights where it was down between 35 and 40, the rest of the nights in the 50s. I didn't have a single temp problem, stayed toasty warm all night. HOWEVER, getting in and out of the Expedition with the bottom entry and the Incubator 20 was, as I mentioned before, a delicate operation. I've decided to get the 2QZQ mod #4, I think side entry (leaving bottom entry just in case) might make the entry \ exit process a bit less frustrating.
I avoided the bottom entry. The rebirthing process seems more problematic than side entry on my zip version!
I had a super shelter down to just below 30 just adding a space blanket without any issues then I got quilts. Quilts are easier but cost more. I am planning to get another super shelter because I like how it fits and I am curious how cold I can go:)
I only ever packed the foam pad back in the original bag and left the rest on the hammock like whisky jack does. (Mainly to protect the foam)
You will still want a top quilt.. In my opinion if you can afford a good quilt set by all means go with that.. but if not the SS can handle most of the year around here in the PNW
Backyard sleeping has been comfy so far. Super shelter works great. Jarbridge works great. Sleeping bag as top quilt works great. May convert it to shed the lumpy zipper.
I have to agree with the little sacks the hennessy stuff comes in. I bought the hammock system with the small tarp. Once I got it out the bag and unrolled, no way I was going to get it back in. Besides, now that I am more experienced, I don't want to. My hammock and straps go into the HH Bag with the logo and instructions on it. The fly goes in its OWN bag with the fly ridge line (mainly in case it's wet...). When I upgraded to the large hex tarp, because I got a little wet during a couple of storms, it came all nicely rolled up in this little bag about the size of a pringles can.
For the life of me I got the **** tarp back in that sack once. I had to turn the sack "sticky" side out, and make sure the tarp was rolled up "sticky" side in and after three tries it fit. But think, if it's pouring rain, do you want to be messing with that? No. Grab a sack you can jam it into, chuck it in your backpack, and go. I use one of the green roll-top sacks from walmart that comes with a blue and orange one. It's mostly water resistant and you can shove a hex tarp in there with all it's lines without much fuss and trouble.
I've been using my HH Explorer Deluxe Asym with SS for six years now, hanging an average of 7 wks/yr.
I ALWAYS use the undercover/underpad (plus spaceblanket). I leave the undercover on when I pull the snakeskins over the hammock.
I remove and rollup the underpad (with the spaceblanket) and store it separately (but loose -- not compressed inside its bag).
I've used the overcover once to help me stay comfortable in 18 degrees F!
Just bought a new Potomac Kick-*** Quilt from Arrowhead. Used it ONCE (!) and had problems with it. In order to ensure that it was tight up against the hammock (to ensure warmth), I apparently tightened the KAQ too much. That, plus not being gentle enough when exiting the hammock led to my tearing both the UQ fabric and the end loop of the UQ -- sending it back to Arrowhead for repair.
I'm thinking that the underquilt (once it is repaired and I figure out how to properly install it) used in conjunction with the undercover/underpad will have me comfy at quite low temperatures.
Eric