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  1. I use slipped Midshipman's hitch...

    I use slipped Midshipman's hitch with 2mm Glowire/Guywire and it holds fine in all conditions.

    Not so well with Zing-it or other uhmwpe materials.

    For corner guy-outs, Blake's hitch, also fine...
  2. Thread: 10oz tarp

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    Also check out Enlightened Equipment Paladin....

    Also check out Enlightened Equipment Paladin. Claimed 8oz or so (and the claimed weights are always really close to actual) although tarp width is less than HG std DCF hex. However, with cordage it...
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    I still find it weird that lay direction is...

    I still find it weird that lay direction is defined by foot location and not head.
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    In this matter, empiricism crushes science every...

    In this matter, empiricism crushes science every time. :lol:
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    Thorough report HERE...

    Thorough report HERE for entire loop!
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    It's where the hammock CL attaches to strap,...

    It's where the hammock CL attaches to strap, whoopie, etc connection at the hammock, not the tree.

    Yes, it works for just about any distance but you have to keep in mind that for closely spaced...
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    But heck yeah, the DH queue is agonizingly...

    But heck yeah, the DH queue is agonizingly looooong. Especially now.

    With Jared, it's as if he mailed it before you ordered it. :laugh:
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    For a Darien, I would just contact the Smurfs and...

    For a Darien, I would just contact the Smurfs and ask their recommendation. I wanted a 10' Darien and asked what they'd recommend for width for my height 5'9" and they came up with 64" which was...
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    Ditto. I have the HG Hex in both .51 DCF and...

    Ditto.

    I have the HG Hex in both .51 DCF and camo versions (both 11' .... yes, slightly insane) but if I could have only one I think I'd keep the camo for the stealth option and live with the 20...
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    You've gotten good suggestions on drip lines, but...

    You've gotten good suggestions on drip lines, but also note that when you're on an actual trip stuff is going to get damp but that's okay. It will not harm your hammock if the ends are damp when you...
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    The problem with calculators is that they don't...

    The problem with calculators is that they don't account for knots cinching tighter and hammock and strap stretch settling under full body weight. Even though some people assume polyester and kevlar...
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    It was swiveling from N to SW... very annoying,...

    It was swiveling from N to SW... very annoying, and a good example of why you don't want to camp close by.

    Very handy for re-heating coffee in the morning. Ahh.

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  13. There's an idea. I'm sure there are some...

    There's an idea.

    I'm sure there are some threads in HF about this but I've not pursued them because I decided to stick with GE hammocks.

    At least DCF repairs are quick and pretty much permanent...
  14. Did the tarp have side panel pull-outs that are...

    Did the tarp have side panel pull-outs that are spaced for a bridge hammock?

    I have very little experience with bridge hammocks — only 3 nights, in fact — and when using it with a DCF tarp for my...
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    Upwind and far away. 180865

    Upwind and far away.

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  16. FS: I'll take the Revolt 50. :) PM incoming.

    I'll take the Revolt 50. :)

    PM incoming.
  17. Yep the hammy has spoiled me... did a trip with...

    Yep the hammy has spoiled me... did a trip with friends to Baxter SP in Maine and was required to use a shelter one night (Pogy Pond) so I had my air mat and pillow. A harsh reminder that hammocks...
  18. Mine is a skosh more because when there are lots...

    Mine is a skosh more because when there are lots of bugs I also use a Cuben/Argon bivy (6.46oz/183g) that a friend made for me. So the difference for me is truly minimal... 2oz or so.

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  19. I concur. My lightest summer setup is 2.56lb for...

    I concur. My lightest summer setup is 2.56lb for hammock, tarp, TQ+UQ (incl suspension, tarp lines and stakes) which is going to be hard to beat even with a decent UL ground setup.

    But my...
  20. No, I don't count trekking poles as part of...

    No, I don't count trekking poles as part of shelter weight, tent or hammock.

    I use them for porch mode and side panel pull-out with my hammock tarps, and they're not counted as shelter weight...
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    About 75F for me with no quilt. Between that...

    About 75F for me with no quilt.

    Between that and 40F I use an EE Revolt rated at 40F, and I've used it down to about 35F and was comfortable.

    I haven't used the SLD Trail Winder or any...
  22. Same here. I sleep better knowing that I won't...

    Same here. I sleep better knowing that I won't have to jump out the hammock at 2:30am and adjust something if it starts raining or whatever. I had to do that exactly one time and the lesson was...
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    This is simply brilliant, linking together the...

    This is simply brilliant, linking together the best of the best. :cool:

    Great planning and mega-kudos for getting out there and actually doing it! I've hiked only a bit in your neck of the woods...
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    I concur 100%... been pitching over the tarp and...

    I concur 100%... been pitching over the tarp and have never had a drip issue, even in the heaviest rain, even on trips of 5-6 nights with hours of rain almost every night.

    Indeed, CRL can be as...
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    Other considerations with the V: 1) Since the...

    Other considerations with the V:

    1) Since the "textbook" V arrangement (page 234, Ultimate Hang 2) requires the tarp RL to extend from the tarp, around the tree and back to the tarp, for long...
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    I have Dariens (10'x64") in 1.2 and 1.7 Robic...

    I have Dariens (10'x64") in 1.2 and 1.7 Robic (now MTN) and haven't had any problems with insects biting through them. Both are single layer.

    My preference is integrated net but I can appreciate...
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    With no prusik or whipping or other method to...

    With no prusik or whipping or other method to secure that free end, it's going to slip. Just a slight brush against a tarp line will cause that bury to give way. Ask me how I know. :(
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    I camp in all seasons and weather and have never...

    I camp in all seasons and weather and have never had these issues that others seem to experience.

    But I've never run a RL under a tarp, and my tarp ridge line does not leak. I also pitch the tarp...
  29. 16lb base is actually not that bad. But a...

    16lb base is actually not that bad.

    But a complete gear list with accurate weights is the only way to figure out the "excess." If you require/desire a large buffer of extra clothing, a chair, a...
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    I use a one-piece RL with tarp attached with...

    I use a one-piece RL with tarp attached with prusiks, and while I could figure out a way to make a V it would be way more fiddly-work than just tying the RL to the trees and centering the tarp with...
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    Totally concur. VB doesn't preclude insulation. ...

    Totally concur. VB doesn't preclude insulation.

    Stephenson/Warmlite is now located in CO and (I think) a niece is running the business.

    For an alternative, I use a Lightheart Gear rain suit but...
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    A tarp ridge line is going to curve whether or...

    A tarp ridge line is going to curve whether or not it has a cat cut.

    DCF doesn't stretch much at all but it still has a curve in the ridge line. Cat cut sides and ends definitely help with a taut...
  33. LOL yes it doesn't fall. However, if it isn't...

    LOL yes it doesn't fall. However, if it isn't windy and isn't too humid, sometimes the small amount of heat retained under the tarp can help keep things drier under it. But a tiny swing one way or...
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    Those really are good books but there is such a...

    Those really are good books but there is such a blizzard of info and options that it is bewildering for the beginner.
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    I tried the V a couple of times early on just for...

    I tried the V a couple of times early on just for the halibut (Hat tip: Phantom:laugh:) and didn't see that it solved a problem.

    Of course, I experimented with a lot of stuff and kept eliminating...
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    3.4oz/yd:scared:

    3.4oz/yd:scared:
  37. Excellent breakdown of your shelter, sleep, food...

    Excellent breakdown of your shelter, sleep, food and clothing systems.

    UL-ers often do things differently but can explain in detail the thought processes and field experiences that inform their...
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    LOL that initial climb out of Ohiopyle is an...

    LOL that initial climb out of Ohiopyle is an eye-opener... just strolling along the road parallel to the river and the RR tracks and BAM! it makes that left turn and up-up-up. I was in pretty good...
  39. Is there a store that sells tablecloths? Add some...

    Is there a store that sells tablecloths? Add some rope and voila! you've got a hammock.
  40. Thread: Econ Burrow

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    My vote is a big yes for the top cinch cord....

    My vote is a big yes for the top cinch cord. Really helps keep heat from escaping.

    Some people claim they're annoying but they don't bother me in the least.
  41. If weight and bulk are not a concern you can...

    If weight and bulk are not a concern you can add/subtract whatever you wish.

    Temp ratings for very well known and widely used models are highly subjective at best and most times you won't know for...
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    With that sort of rope you could skip the 'biner...

    With that sort of rope you could skip the 'biner entirely and use a Blake's hitch.
  43. Of course you can always use found sticks instead...

    Of course you can always use found sticks instead of poles. Sometimes even with trekking poles I'll add a stick into the mix.
    ...
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    Great work, Andy. :laugh: That weight is right...

    Great work, Andy. :laugh:

    That weight is right in line with something similar from EE... very respectable!

    Harriman is still open for business when you're able escape Gotham and take it for a...
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    You can also use a couple of plastic bubble...

    You can also use a couple of plastic bubble mailers, using a rubber band around the 'package' to hold the folded ends together.
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    The issue with Nalgene is that the bottle itself...

    The issue with Nalgene is that the bottle itself is polycarbonate but the lid is polypropylene, which distorts a bit with heat.
  47. Well some people also use internal poles...

    Well some people also use internal poles specifically made for the job but I'm not into carrying excess weight, although it is also possible to use a trekking pole (with side panel pullouts) as in...
  48. If you are rigging up the tarp to large trees...

    If you are rigging up the tarp to large trees that are not too far apart, you can pitch with the head or foot end into the wind, using the tree trunk itself as a wind break.

    However, many large...
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    When I were a groundling (and on the rare...

    When I were a groundling (and on the rare occasion when forced to revert) I used one of these and it worked well for me with minimal inflation. I used DCF repair tape to attach a tiny shock cord to...
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    Welcome to HF! Already I have a question for...

    Welcome to HF!

    Already I have a question for you! — Have you hiked the Highline and is a hammock practical all the way or is ground sleeping necessary at some point?

    Thanks much.
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