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    Gotta agree with silver surfr here. Forthe weight...

    Gotta agree with silver surfr here. Forthe weight vs price point, I’d rather mod Costco down throws and layer them. At 40oz and $150 (on sale for half price) for a 30 degree bag, I think $60 of...
  2. I leave my net and my UQ attached the entire...

    I leave my net and my UQ attached the entire time. I just bundle the whole thing into a stuff sack, starting at one loop and ending at the other. Makes deployment easy. Never understood why people...
  3. Medium and heavy weight muslin in wide up to...

    Medium and heavy weight muslin in wide up to crazy extra wide is available from theatrical fabric supply places. Check rosebrand.

    EDit:
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  4. They look like a pea pod system. Possibly...

    They look like a pea pod system. Possibly functional. Pea pods were a Speer thing, and some people still mod sleeping bags to do it. Itís very restrictive of your lay. Definitely a cold weather...
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    They definitely work The grommets rip out pretty...

    They definitely work The grommets rip out pretty easily though, so plan for that. You can sew on pull outs, use a stone bundled in the edge of the tarp to loop around, or something similar.
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    Weight vs $ becomes a very tight game when...

    Weight vs $ becomes a very tight game when dealing with summer weight gear. For winter gear the weight vs cost is a pretty clear trade off, if you can afford it. Hugh quality down in bulk vs heavier...
  7. My wife and I will lounge in my 11’ hexon xl. We...

    My wife and I will lounge in my 11’ hexon xl. We lay opposite directions on the same diagonal. Works for hanging out together in camp. We could never sleep that way though.
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    Dutch sells special Whoopie hooks and a spreader...

    Dutch sells special Whoopie hooks and a spreader bar for side by side hammocks

    https://dutchwaregear.com/product/double-whoopie-hook-complete-2/#tree-huggers

    Bunch of photos in this thread:
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    I’d get a zip in bugnet. My first diy hammock was...

    I’d get a zip in bugnet. My first diy hammock was a Hennessy copy with a zippered net. It’s the kiddos now. He is an active sleeper. I once found his hammock upside down with him curled up in the...
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    I was writing the same thing about Dutch’s...

    I was writing the same thing about Dutch’s options. I missed that you were in Melbourne though.
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    Ahh... makes sense now. The tarp is an economics...

    Ahh... makes sense now. The tarp is an economics vs weight vs bulk discussion. The grizbeaks cloud it a little further. Silpoly costs less, but weights more. Ruben weighs less, but takes a little...
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    What kind of tarp are you making with 5 yards of...

    What kind of tarp are you making with 5 yards of fabric? The only possible design would be an asymmetric, which needs around 4 yard. A hex takes a minimum of 7 yards, but you are talking about grizz...
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    The JRB 11x10 tarp has to be set up with the...

    The JRB 11x10 tarp has to be set up with the ridge running the 10í length to close the ends off as doors. The 10í edge has 4 ties outs, while the 11í wide only has 3 with catcuts. If you look at the...
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    Iíve used a pad in a double layer hammock with a...

    Iíve used a pad in a double layer hammock with a simple diy polyfil UQ, once upon a time on a one week long trip. The CCF pad mostly kept me warm, but the UQ wrapped up around my shoulders, and added...
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    Ahh... I missed that the first time. Cheap and...

    Ahh... I missed that the first time. Cheap and heavier, look at amazon. Lots of options there. The others mentioned are all good. The asyms are very minimalist, but can serve if you have good site...
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    If you are hanging both under the same tarp with...

    If you are hanging both under the same tarp with a spreader bar the hex option isn't going to be a great option. I'll vote the 12x12 Noah also. REI has their own version also. There are a bunch of...
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    and a happy hanging new year.

    and a happy hanging new year.
  18. 2nd the fronkey. Even simpler, is sew two panels...

    2nd the fronkey. Even simpler, is sew two panels of noseeum together, sewpockets into each corner, drape the whole thing over your ridgeline, and fill the pockets with stones.

    Personally I prefer...
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    I sticks ok... what works best, is to stick a...

    I sticks ok... what works best, is to stick a patch on both sides of the hole. That way the tape sticks to itself and seals the hole.
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    Tenascious tape also. If you want a permanent...

    Tenascious tape also. If you want a permanent fix, use a scrap of xenon and glue it over the hole with seam sealer. Xenon is a silpoly yes, use silent, or similar silicone.
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    You can try it. Iím not optimistic that you could...

    You can try it. Iím not optimistic that you could get it to conform to the shape the hammock takes when you lie in it, just by clipping the climashield on. If the UQP can be snugged up pretty tight,...
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    I’ve definitely had Pu coated tent flys, and back...

    I’ve definitely had Pu coated tent flys, and back packs go bad. The PU coating starts to get sticky, and lose its water resistance. Then the coating starts peeling/flaking off. The underlying fabrics...
  23. Not sure why they think your tarp is inadequate....

    Not sure why they think your tarp is inadequate. 8x10 is fine on a 10í hammock. General wisdom is that tarp ridge length=hammock length. It allows you to snug the hammock up tighter to the ridge of...
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    I can’t think of any advantage to not having an...

    I can’t think of any advantage to not having an opening. It doesn’t hurt anything. My first hammock I made was double layer. When I started using an UQ with it I never experienced an issue.
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    I keep mine in a stuff sack along with my stake...

    I keep mine in a stuff sack along with my stake bag (straps with beetle buckles). I coil the straps, and put them in the bag. Stakes go into a smaller bag inside the strap bag. Keeps the straps...
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    Figure 8 as others say. Iíve put figure 8s in...

    Figure 8 as others say. Iíve put figure 8s in small cord that Iíve actually tried to get out after they were loaded. No dice on untying them... it works on shock cord also.

    The overhand would work...
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    Thatís my guess also. Maybe check out the ďfaux...

    Thatís my guess also. Maybe check out the ďfaux baffleĒ technique for the Costco quilts. It may allow someway to get a differential in. Are your baffles running across, or along the length of of the...
  28. Yup! I started with a kelty Noah. It keeps you...

    Yup! I started with a kelty Noah. It keeps you dry. If you treat PU stuff well, and dry it out before storage, it will last a long time. There’s definitely a place for. If you’re not concerned about...
  29. Thatís REIís knockoff of the Kelly Noah. Itís PU...

    Thatís REIís knockoff of the Kelly Noah. Itís PU coated. You can tell because there a coating on one side. Silnylon and silpoly are not coated, but are totally saturated. The silicone goes all the...
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    This is what I’ve done. Only issue I’ve had with...

    This is what I’ve done. Only issue I’ve had with cold feet was when we were car camping this fall, and temps dropped 10 degrees lower then predicted, and wind hit 40 mph gusts, and my tarp wasn’t...
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    Give it time. Next will be hammocks, then tarps,...

    Give it time. Next will be hammocks, then tarps, then from scratch quilts, eventually you’ll start looking at backpacks, wind shirts, and other stuff. Good luck.
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    Yup. I learned it the hardway with a set of...

    Yup. I learned it the hardway with a set of buckles and straps I bought from Dutch. I've switched to beetle buckles.
  33. Don’t put your ridgeline under your tarp. It’s a...

    Don’t put your ridgeline under your tarp. It’s a possible route for moisture to run down the ridgeline and drip.

    If you do a ridgeline run it above and attach the tarp with your soft shackles.
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  34. If you have a bottom entry net, or no net, I've...

    If you have a bottom entry net, or no net, I've put small Prussic loops on my ridgeline that I route my suspension through as needed. It does the same thing as triangle thingy, but inside my net. I...
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    For $19, you can’t complain. I’d complain about...

    For $19, you can’t complain. I’d complain about the weight, but $19!!!!
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    I actually agree with everything here. I use a...

    I actually agree with everything here. I use a diy gathered end with a fronkey net. I’ll never go integrated again, unless needs must. My dog (a papillon) curls up just fine in mine!

    It always...
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    My first was around 10 years ago. It was a Byers...

    My first was around 10 years ago. It was a Byers of Maine Mosquito Hammock (this is not their current version!). It was labeled as Brazilian, was made with light weight nylon and synthetic rope...
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    I second much of this. I use a fronkey net with a...

    I second much of this. I use a fronkey net with a ridge line. I leave my UQ attached all the time (different colored amsteel loops help track head and foot ends). I use straps with beetle buckles....
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    Iím 5í11 and have been ok in a 9í6 hammock...

    Iím 5í11 and have been ok in a 9í6 hammock before. It was my first build. It is a Hennessy clone with an integrated net, and was supposed to be 10í, but, well, you know how these things go. I did...
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    Yup. If I was single I’d be a full time hanger....

    Yup. If I was single I’d be a full time hanger. Even when I side sleep in a hammock I wake up feeling better then in a bed. Welcome to the magic
  41. I’ve been between 230-250 lately (down to 225...

    I’ve been between 230-250 lately (down to 225 right now and working on it!) I have a HyperD 1.6, and find it too stretchy at my heavier end. Definitely good at 230 and below. My preferred is my hexon...
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    I too am curious. It appears to be a gathered end...

    I too am curious. It appears to be a gathered end hammock with symmetrical tieouts? It looks like a solid hammock. Congrats on the new purchase!
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    You can do either. You can just larks head the...

    You can do either. You can just larks head the loops to the end, or thread them thru. Some people prefer the lark ahead, because you can easily switch out suspensions or hammocks.
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    Is this bad influence, or actually good influence?

    Is this bad influence, or actually good influence?
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    You can buy used on the buy/sell forum, but I was...

    You can buy used on the buy/sell forum, but I was referring to the vendors that are posted in the vendors section of the forum. Check out dutchware, dream hammock, warbonnet, etc. they all have...
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    I’d reccomend a net less dutchware in 1.6 hexon...

    I’d reccomend a net less dutchware in 1.6 hexon then. At 6’3” you may want to try a wide (mine is), but is has floppy side issues.

    The advantage of buying from the community cottage vendors is...
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    I canít answer for certain. This is where side by...

    I canít answer for certain. This is where side by side testing comes in. According to Hansen on the ultimate hang, the so called parachute nylon isnít actual parachute nylon, but is some sort of 2-3...
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    Length could definitely be a factor. The fabric...

    Length could definitely be a factor. The fabric can be an issue also. If you’re slender you may prefer a lighter and stretchier nylon, which could allow you back to be more fully supported. Im still...
  49. In theory yes, but it is a slightly sticky...

    In theory yes, but it is a slightly sticky question. Not all manufacturers use the same rating system. If it is rated on the European EN scale, then for the most part, yes. REI started requiring a...
  50. Thread: DIY Ursack

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    Epoxy will not flex enough. It will crack instead.

    Epoxy will not flex enough. It will crack instead.
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