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    Not too long ago Lawson released his Glowire...

    Not too long ago Lawson released his Glowire 2.5mm which he designed specifically to be a great fit for those Lineloc 3's.
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    Received today. I set it up on a netless hammock...

    Received today. I set it up on a netless hammock that's currently hanging in my garage, and didn't have any trouble dialing it in. FWIW, one of the 4 secondary/end channel cord locks wasn't threaded...
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    +1 on that.

    +1 on that.
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    The Blackbird XLC is 11' long, but the Original...

    The Blackbird XLC is 11' long, but the Original Blackbird is 10' like the Darien.

    The Darien is much more customizable in terms of fabrics, colors, and add-ons. At is core though, it's a lighter...
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    I think that's a very clear (unofficial) answer. ...

    I think that's a very clear (unofficial) answer. :)
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    Agreed, it's a pretty awesome set. If you use...

    Agreed, it's a pretty awesome set. If you use stuff sacks, you can pretty easily get both quilts into one of the sacks.
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    Gotcha. This is what I meant, although I'm sure...

    Gotcha. This is what I meant, although I'm sure there are other ways to set them up.

    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/6/img_2086.jpg
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    Bring plenty of Funyuns.

    Bring plenty of Funyuns.
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    From what I've seen on YouTube, the GL4 looks so...

    From what I've seen on YouTube, the GL4 looks so puffy and lofty - I think it might rival the loft of my full length minus 20. JRB states it's a "conservative" 0* and I don't doubt it.
  10. What seems weird? It's telling you your anchor...

    What seems weird? It's telling you your anchor points need to be ~2m off the ground, which is about 6.5 feet, which is about what I'd have guessed for a 13 foot span.
    Your 80cm (32 inch) sit height...
  11. Ignore the "ceiling" part, but check out some of...

    Ignore the "ceiling" part, but check out some of forum member Just Bill's posts in this thread. (Posts #10 & 12)
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  12. I don't have a setup like that, but if you look...

    I don't have a setup like that, but if you look at the product photos it appears to be set up at an angle between two adjacent (perpendicular) walls, which is what I believe you want to do?

    Note...
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    That sounds like a good plan. If you meant...

    That sounds like a good plan. If you meant Lineloc 3, are you going to loop the mason line X number of times through the slot in the Lineloc, so that it stays straight? Or were you talking about...
  14. For the XL, yes. I think the regular Draumr will...

    For the XL, yes. I think the regular Draumr will accommodate pads that can go lower.
  15. It doesn't look like it's been mentioned yet, so...

    It doesn't look like it's been mentioned yet, so here is a link to a hammock hang calculator which you can use to determine the approximate height to mount the anchors on the wall, since you know the...
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    Email notification of order received: 1:15pm...

    Email notification of order received: 1:15pm
    Email notification of order shipped: 1:17pm

    Even if that only means the shipping label has been printed, that's still impressive.
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    The Greylock 4 has been on my radar for some time...

    The Greylock 4 has been on my radar for some time now and I think this thread made up my mind. Order placed.

    This fills a gap in my UQ roster between my 20 and my minus 20.
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    I thought the same but checked last night after reading the first post in this thread. The newest Draumr including the XL does have a bugnet that zips all the way off. I thought it only unzipped...
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    I do agree with that. The shock cord probably...

    I do agree with that. The shock cord probably has a lower breaking strength that most typical guyline material, so it could act as a "fuse" in a way, but whether that offers enough of the...
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    I suppose that depends on your...

    I suppose that depends on your methods/hardware/etc but I've never found this to be the case. There are certainly downsides to using shock cord (including it's lower performance in very cold...
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    This is a really clever way to do the secondary...

    This is a really clever way to do the secondary suspension. It adds almost nothing that wasn't already on the manufacturer's materials list, and for the user it means a little less weight and fewer...
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    Another thread from the last year or so comes to...

    Another thread from the last year or so comes to mind where there has been a fair bit of discussion on pole lengths. That starts around post #33 and then goes on for a few pages....
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    Yes, my UGQ tarp is 20D. Sorry, my offhand...

    Yes, my UGQ tarp is 20D. Sorry, my offhand comment about the 70D material wasn't really trying to imply that it would be too heavy for the poles. Without thinking about it more, I was actually sort...
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    I agree wholeheartedly with your first paragraph....

    I agree wholeheartedly with your first paragraph. But as for the second - if you crank shock cord to it's full extension, it will act basically like a static line. Then if the tarp did stretch, the...
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    I have .340 poles for my UGQ Winterdream (center...

    I have .340 poles for my UGQ Winterdream (center pole and end poles, 3 total) and I think about the same diameter for my SLD Train Haven (center only).

    70D sounds really heavy, but poly is known...
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    Spider Web 1.5 is 1.5 grams per foot for the 1"...

    Spider Web 1.5 is 1.5 grams per foot for the 1" width.
    Kevlar is usually in the range of 1.9 - 3.3 grams per foot for 1" width.

    Dutch had 2.2 and 3.3 Kevlar but currently seems to have only 3.3....
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    One thing that could happen with shock cord that...

    One thing that could happen with shock cord that probably wouldn't happen without is a stake pulling out of the ground and launching itself toward the tarp, potentially damaging the tarp.
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    I think any of those are fine, but would say B is...

    I think any of those are fine, but would say B is less optimal because you won't be as close to each other for chatting and your stinky feet will be near each other's heads. LOL

    You didn't post D...
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    Yes, good call on the doors. I agree with that.

    Yes, good call on the doors. I agree with that.
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    Trying different things... either way works...

    Trying different things... either way works fine. Some swear by one method and vice versa, some people mix it up. Whatever works for you is the right way!

    But if I was going to reply more...
  31. Sew loops at each end, thus turning the webbing...

    Sew loops at each end, thus turning the webbing into a pair of tree huggers? I'm not sure how you could maximize a given length of webbing any more than that.
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    "While it might be frustrating for squirrels to...

    "While it might be frustrating for squirrels to lose their carefully hidden nuts, it can be beneficial for other organisms. In particular, it can help the forest itself! A study done at the...
  33. I don't have one, but I've heard they're pretty...

    I don't have one, but I've heard they're pretty decent for the price. I think they're more reputable than many of the dozens or hundreds of inexpensive tarps sold on Amazon.

    A 30d nylon tarp with...
  34. Thread: Tensa SOLO?

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    Good to know, thanks. I'd appreciate if you can...

    Good to know, thanks. I'd appreciate if you can confirm when you receive your goodies. Some fun tinkering in your near future!
  35. Thread: Tensa SOLO?

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    I'm trying to make sense of all this in my...

    I'm trying to make sense of all this in my head... but wondering if you might be 1 guyline short.

    Tensa4 with UCR's *used to* come with 1x orange UCR for the baseline, 1x black UCR for the...
  36. Thread: Tensa SOLO?

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    Like webbing vs. Amsteel, would you consider...

    Like webbing vs. Amsteel, would you consider making it a choice when adding the product to the cart?

    An even more tailored option could be to remove the anchors from the standard pricing and add a...
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    Here's a pretty solid thread from last year. ...

    Here's a pretty solid thread from last year.

    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/146572-Splicing-length-of-bury
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    I try not to be the guy that starts by saying...

    I try not to be the guy that starts by saying "actually," but actually.... :D

    One "fid length" is 21x the diameter of the rope.

    For 7/64" (.1094") diameter, fid length = 2.297"

    Bury length...
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    Assuming you want the quilt to work well in -20C...

    Assuming you want the quilt to work well in -20C (-4F) conditions, you probably want to plan on having 4" (~10cm) loft height. {4" = -10F}

    For -15C (+5F) conditions, 3.5" (~9cm) loft height...
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    There's no stand here, but this photo shows what...

    There's no stand here, but this photo shows what we're both describing. Two guylines per pole to stabilize them and one guyline from each tarp corner to the ground. Tarp connected directly to the...
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    An 11' hammock with a ridgeline is usually about...

    An 11' hammock with a ridgeline is usually about 110" plus the continuous loops. An 11' tarp will cover 132" which gives you almost a foot of overhang on each end, so normally even the continuous...
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    Gutermann Mara 50, Tera 80, or even Mara 70...

    Gutermann Mara 50, Tera 80, or even Mara 70 should all work fine.
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    That's not janky at all. That's a good way to do...

    That's not janky at all. That's a good way to do it, if you're not bothered by the extra poles and cordage. I've done exactly that with a 12' tarp. If nothing else, it lets you easily have a setup...
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    FS: If sale is pending elsewhere, I think protocol...

    If sale is pending elsewhere, I think protocol (or at least etiquette) would be to close and move this thread. Reopen a new one if the sale elsewhere falls through.
    Just shoving my 2 cents where...
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    Very reminiscent of the last verse of "You Never...

    Very reminiscent of the last verse of "You Never Even Called Me By My Name" by David Allen Coe.
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    Where I was set up last weekend, I didn't even...

    Where I was set up last weekend, I didn't even need the embers of a dying fire.

    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/1/0/1/tensa4_vs_volcano.jpg
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    With other strap suppliers, check to see what...

    With other strap suppliers, check to see what material they are selling. If they are polyester, they won't stretch much (you mentioned stretch in your OP). UHMWPE or Kevlar also don't really...
  48. Next time try stacking your 40* inside your 20*...

    Next time try stacking your 40* inside your 20* inside your 0* TQs. That should be enough insulation to keep you warm in the cold vacuum of space.
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    To the OP, do you have tree straps or tree...

    To the OP, do you have tree straps or tree huggers?

    Straps are typically longer and have a loop just at one end - the tree end. The strap goes around the tree and the non-loop end passes...
  50. It's very possible some cordage extensions on the...

    It's very possible some cordage extensions on the end(s) of the primary suspension might be needed, in order to avoid compressing the inner quilt. Most/all of my UQs fit properly with the primary...
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