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  1. Thanks for all the reply’s and great in-depth...

    Thanks for all the reply’s and great in-depth info.
  2. XLC underquilt protector zipper for winter top cover

    I have the new generation XLC ... love it ... also have the wintertop cover and underquilt protector that zip together to form a free hanging chinook.

    I thought WB offered a double zipper option...
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    Same thing happened to mine ... Gives a sort of...

    Same thing happened to mine ... Gives a sort of perception they are weak / could break. I have them and also the polyester ... I use the polyester, Dutch clips and carabiners ... looks stronger. Am...
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    Sticky: If the CRL is below the tarp does that mean the...

    If the CRL is below the tarp does that mean the tarp is resting on the CRL?
    In addition to dripping water as noted by the OP, it seems like it would also wear the tarp
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    I use the tarpworms .... love em ... always...

    I use the tarpworms .... love em ... always amazed how these little things work so well to keep the tarp line tight.
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    Welcome to the site. I am thinking about getting...

    Welcome to the site. I am thinking about getting a bike to do some bike packing with my hammock set up in AZ
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    I unzip my Western Mountaineering down bag and it...

    I unzip my Western Mountaineering down bag and it works like my UGQ top quilt.
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    Agree with Dakota... very easy to vent down...

    Agree with Dakota... very easy to vent down quilt. I also use liner ... so ifwarm enough I use liner only. If it gets chilly at night I pull the UGQ (down) out.
  9. I use a UGQ Winterdream 13í Love it. Never an...

    I use a UGQ Winterdream 13í
    Love it. Never an issue, nor is finding trees in Michigan ... different story in the lower elevations in Arizona.
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    Sticky: Down normally works.

    Down normally works.
  11. Great images. Can’t wait to get out there.

    Great images. Can’t wait to get out there.
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    I am more concerned about quality ... sometimes...

    I am more concerned about quality ... sometimes (maybe most times) quality costs more.
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    I had one ... was nice.

    I had one ... was nice.
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    Goose down ... not a doubt ... just need to keep...

    Goose down ... not a doubt ... just need to keep it dry like anything else I sleep with.
  15. I use hiking poles, they help me go.

    I use hiking poles, they help me go.
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    Cr8tv - michigan has some good Hangs ... Manistee...

    Cr8tv - michigan has some good Hangs ... Manistee - NCT loop among the best ...a minimal bugs, really ... Even though I grew up in small central Wisconsin town I did not really get into backpacking...
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Welcome to the forum.
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    I use the Swayers brand ...buy the premixed spray...

    I use the Swayers brand ...buy the premixed spray bottle. Works well here in Mich. No bug issues thus far, fingers stay crossed. Also spray backpack. Just need to ensure I’m not down wind when I...
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    Welcome to the site. Reminds me. I need to find...

    Welcome to the site.
    Reminds me. I need to find some hiking trails in the Carolinas ... never hike that part of country.
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    Welcome to the forum ... WBBB XLC double is very...

    Welcome to the forum ... WBBB XLC double is very nice, in my opinion.
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    Gathered end for me. I have had both. But as with...

    Gathered end for me. I have had both. But as with most everything it come down to personal preference and perception. Try both.
  22. Dutch gear all the way ... really simplifies...

    Dutch gear all the way ... really simplifies things
  23. Hutzel ... thanks for comments ... I am a novice...

    Hutzel ... thanks for comments ... I am a novice when it come to fabric ... appreciate it.
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    No wash ... but then again I always sleep in a...

    No wash ... but then again I always sleep in a sleeping bag liner when in hammock ... also helps keeping top quilt clean. Also biodegradable wet wipes.

    All that said, I also try to not let...
  25. I have a WBBB XLC heavy duty double layer, first...

    I have a WBBB XLC heavy duty double layer, first generation, top net plus winter top, whoopies.
    Like new.
    $150 plus shipping.
  26. Did you call Ranger Scott? What did he say about...

    Did you call Ranger Scott? What did he say about the ticks, if you called?
    Thanks
  27. Poll: Anything but plastic

    Anything but plastic
  28. It sounds like the dream-Tex is new ... WB...

    It sounds like the dream-Tex is new ... WB introduced it late last year ... so wonder if further real world use might reveal potential future issues such as wear over time.
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    I have an UGQ 0 degree underquilt that I use...

    I have an UGQ 0 degree underquilt that I use yeararound. Never get a cold backside. I don’t mind carrying the extra weight. Idon’t See any downside ... am I missing something.
  30. Thanks cmc for the reference. It is going to be...

    Thanks cmc for the reference.
    It is going to be a tough decision
  31. WBBB heavy duty 70D nylon or 40D dream-Tex nylon

    Looking at upgrading to the new WBBB Heavyweight Double XLC.

    I already have the WBBB double layer heavyweight XLC, but it is the first generation design. Great hammock, but just looking to get the...
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    I did the loop clockwise starting at Coates hwy...

    I did the loop clockwise starting at Coates hwy on Saturday; a very nice 20.85 mile over night backpacking trip. It was busy ... even tough finding a parking spot. Only saw one hammock (my own)....
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    I have a WBRR that was used less than 5 times....

    I have a WBRR that was used less than 5 times.
    It is doubled layered with bug netting.
    It also has a spindrift (dual entry).
    Also have an UGQ underquilt rated to 10 degrees.
    Willing to sell all...
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    https://hikearizona.com/ You can spend hours...

    https://hikearizona.com/
    You can spend hours looking at this site.
    A day hike option in the Scottsdale area is McDowell regional ... lots of trails from a few miles to 10+ miles long
  35. I have a WBBB ... also the WBRR ... but use the...

    I have a WBBB ... also the WBRR ... but use the BB more. Have an UGQ Zeppelin ubderquilt ... works very well here in Michigan and Arizona Rim country.
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    I have a WBRR with built in bug net ... added a...

    I have a WBRR with built in bug net ... added a spindrift, and use UGQ underquilt. Also have WBBB ...guess I use the WBBB more. Would like the newer model though.
  37. That is warm ... for me late Fall / Winter are...

    That is warm ... for me late Fall / Winter are the best time to backpack in Michigan. Few/no bugs, quiet, crisp air.
  38. Backpacking on Mich Manistee River trail

    Back packed along the Manistee River trail in northern lower Michigan. Used the Warbonnet Blackbird XLC with top cover. Tarp is UGQ Winterdream. Quilts (top and under) both from UGQ. Great night...
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    That seems to have worked. Thanks

    That seems to have worked. Thanks
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    Images load as sideways or upsidedown

    Is there a easy solution to correcting the orientation of photos I post?
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    Thanks for info on pole length

    Thanks for info on pole length
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    I have the same tarp ... really like it. I am...

    I have the same tarp ... really like it.
    I am going to make poles for it ... how long are the poles u use on the inside?
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    For what it is worth as a newer member. I love my...

    For what it is worth as a newer member. I love my RR bought earlier this year and used about 6 times thus far ... like the quality of product and service so much I just ordered a double door...
  44. Tied my new UGQ top quilt, bottom quilt and winter dream

    Received the UGQ 20* Flight Jacket top quilt. Great workmanship just like with the UGQ bottom quilt (0* Ambush) and 13' UGQ Winter Dream tarp.
    Also received the Mountain Goat tarp snake skins ......
  45. Velcro vent flaps along ridge line in tarp

    I ordered a UGQ Winter Dream 13' for my WBRR. I am new to hanging and have only hung outside in the Winter once a few weeks ago here in SE Michigan. The low for the night was 19*. So not super cold....
  46. I have an NX-270 I will sell. Used it twice. Also...

    I have an NX-270 I will sell. Used it twice. Also have the Clark matching tarp and UGQ Zeppelin under quilt. I am selling because I bought a WBRR that I like. Clark is made extremely well but I like...
  47. I have a UGQ WD-13-poly ordered. Will completely...

    I have a UGQ WD-13-poly ordered. Will completely enclose the RR. Thinking f pulling trigger on a UGQ Ambush 20* ... Before the wife finds out lol.
  48. This one you can open

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    This picture you can open.
  49. Here are the pics.

    Here are the pics.
  50. Tried new Ridge Runner last night (19 degrees out)

    Below are some pics of my first setup of Ridge Runner (RR) outside in SE Mich (19* last night).
    Used UGQ Zeppelin 20* UQ I bought last Summer for my Clark NX270 ... didn't fit the RR perfectly, but...
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