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    I just did the same thing!!! LOL! As I was...

    I just did the same thing!!! LOL! As I was packing it, I thought "I didn't need any loops after 4 years of hanging...these are gone!"
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    Incubator 20*+1 (78") = 25.50 (heavier ripstop...

    Incubator 20*+1 (78") = 25.50 (heavier ripstop material)
    Incubator 20+1 (73") = 22.35

    So a 3.15oz difference. I could definitely tell the difference in bulk, having a much easier time stuffing...
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    HAHA I know!! Why? I can't figure that one out....

    HAHA I know!! Why? I can't figure that one out. It's longer, so why do my feet get so close to the edge even lying at a very low angle?
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    I did not like the 11'. It just seems like a sea...

    I did not like the 11'. It just seems like a sea of fabric all around me. The calf ridge, which is not really a problem for me on a 10', was the exact same on the 11'. The ridgeline also hung a LOT...
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    I didn't weigh it yet since I was airing it out...

    I didn't weigh it yet since I was airing it out to get the loft up for testing. But I will repack it and measure tonight. Specs say 20.25 vs 22.0oz, but I think my Incubator uses the older ripstop,...
  6. FS: Columbia Bugaboot Plus II - Mens 9.5, Black * Pics added

    I'm selling my pair of Columbia Bugaboot II boots since a larger size is more comfortable for me with thick socks.

    I'll get a photo up soon. But until then, they are used and in good condition...
  7. I just got my 20+1 Incubator, SHORT. At 73" it...

    I just got my 20+1 Incubator, SHORT. At 73" it seems to be a perfect fit. I am 5'9" (69") tall. I only tested it indoors, but if it works on my next trip out I will sell my standard length Incubator...
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    Just in case you missed it in the other thread: ...

    Just in case you missed it in the other thread:

    I received the 20+1oz short last night. I like it! Side by side, it doesn't seem shorter than my standard 20...but I guess 5" isn't that much, plus...
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    I received the 20+1oz short last night. I like...

    I received the 20+1oz short last night. I like it! Side by side, it doesn't seem shorter than my standard 20...but I guess 5" isn't that much, plus the old one sort of "remembers" the curve shape...
  10. That's probably a good idea. I think I'm heading...

    That's probably a good idea. I think I'm heading north to Hoist Lakes this weekend...-3F for the HIGH on Saturday!!
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    A few things that helped me: 1. Don't...

    A few things that helped me:

    1. Don't necessarily count the weight of the pack. That sounds wrong, but for me, packs were a tough fit. If it weights 3lbs and fits like a glove, don't get too...
  12. I like the full length. I tried really hard to...

    I like the full length. I tried really hard to make the 3/4 Phoenix work, but I like the ease of my Incubators. Jump in the hammock and you're done head to toe.

    After I bought a Phoenix and saw...
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    Very true. Just because a pad works once, twice...

    Very true. Just because a pad works once, twice or ten times doesn't satisfy me. You never know when it will fail. There's a lot of weather and science behind that, which I won't pretend to...
  14. Hmm, you could almost just take a chance on the...

    Hmm, you could almost just take a chance on the Incubator alone. But pushing the limit can be bad if it doesn't work out!

    I'm thinking about heading up north to Michigan to get in on this "last...
  15. In the most basic sense, yes, that is correct.

    In the most basic sense, yes, that is correct.
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    Not a big hassle, but if I'm using the doors that...

    Not a big hassle, but if I'm using the doors that means a decent chance of moderate/heavy rain. In that case I just take the superfly. Plus, I like that there is no gap...all once piece. Not that...
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    That definitely works. I just cut a stick about...

    That definitely works. I just cut a stick about 1" in diameter and 10" long. Bury it, stomp down, and lightly set up the tarp. Maybe 10 minutes later it's packed solid, so I tighten the lines up....
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    I vote for the Edge as well. I have the superfly...

    I vote for the Edge as well. I have the superfly and mamajamba with door kit. I used to like the versatility of the doors, but now I just look at the forecast and simply take either the MJ without...
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    Arriving tomorrow!

    Arriving tomorrow!
  20. I used my 20 the other night for a low of...

    I used my 20 the other night for a low of 50...horrible! I don't know how anyone can do this more than once in a while. There's no "venting" a TQ. You're in the hammock, it's in the hammock. It's...
  21. When the air conditioner breaks! But it never...

    When the air conditioner breaks! But it never does :)

    I never understood this thinking. My house varies between 67 and 69. Outside varies -5 and 70 for me.

    But either way, the end result is...
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    Here it is! ...

    Here it is!

    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/76680-Hanging-on-a-steel-beam-in-my-basement?p=1052620&viewfull=1#post1052620
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    I love these foot boxes. But no matter the...

    I love these foot boxes. But no matter the insulation, I pretty much need to wear down booties when it gets cold...let's say under 20. Thick socks usually work, but down booties are a 100% guarantee...
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    I thought about that, but even after hanging for...

    I thought about that, but even after hanging for 4 years, I haven't had a single spec of sap on my tarp. And the ONLY place I hang is under the pines, when possible (most of the time). I'm gonna keep...
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    It's crazy how that works; I don't understand it....

    It's crazy how that works; I don't understand it. In the past, even after making a note on the setup, I couldn't get it work the next time. The things I focus on the most now is the distance between...
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    Those look pretty nice. I usually make do with...

    Those look pretty nice. I usually make do with the basic aluminum Y-stakes (7" version) in somewhat sandy soil. But that's the problem, it's hard to say for sure if we're talking sand, or just...
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    Rollintent, in that scenario of tightening the...

    Rollintent, in that scenario of tightening the foot end alone to raise it would probably make it too tight and uncomfortable. I like to have a decent amount of sag, which can be estimated by the...
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    I do it more like the bottom photo. Literally...

    I do it more like the bottom photo. Literally move the strap up about 8" higher on the foot end. Simply pulling the suspension tighter to make it "higher" doesn't seem to work, and becomes...
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    Very nice setup. I always wished I started with...

    Very nice setup. I always wished I started with the Edge tarp. Nice balance of weight and protection.
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    I'll let you know! I'm certain the weight...

    I'll let you know!

    I'm certain the weight won't be noticeable, but less bulk in my pack is always welcome. That 5" reduction is like the size of another fleece jacket, 2 days of food, or whatever....
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    This instruction should be stitched into the...

    This instruction should be stitched into the fabric of the Incubator!! Seriously. Comparing my 0 to my 20 saved my life. The 20 always performed and I couldn't figure out why the 0 failed on two...
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    I can't go without the secondary suspension. It...

    I can't go without the secondary suspension. It really starts to matter when you're getting closer to the bottom end of the rating. 20-30 is where I really like to fine tune the secondary. I usually...
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    Oh yeah that makes sense

    Oh yeah that makes sense
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    A double top quilt!! So like a modular design?...

    A double top quilt!! So like a modular design? Remove a layer for warmer weather kind of thing?
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    Hype is good. Too much hype is bad. Hopefully...

    Hype is good. Too much hype is bad. Hopefully it's completely public soon!
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    You bet! I'll probably do a quick review in a...

    You bet! I'll probably do a quick review in a separate thread with some photos. I'm hoping it works out. Right now I'm definitely in a "if it's not broken don't fix it" situation with the standard...
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    Sounds like a winner! It is nice to shave...

    Sounds like a winner!

    It is nice to shave weight even when kayaking. I did a trip last fall with a lot of portages...about had a heart attack carrying that kayak and gear thru the woods.
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    Probably. For the price and quantity they...

    Probably. For the price and quantity they probably pump out, I'm sure there is a decent amount of duds.
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    I dropped and broke this one (from one of the...

    I dropped and broke this one (from one of the links I posted on page 2):

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/89379576/Thermometers/4_up.jpg

    But the second one I bought works just as well.
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    Wow, CF would cut my tarp weight exactly in HALF!...

    Wow, CF would cut my tarp weight exactly in HALF! But I just can't do it!
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    LOL! And do you have a coexist sticker on the...

    LOL! And do you have a coexist sticker on the back, in addition to another 10-20 stickers?
  42. I don't know, but the Grand Trunk parachute I...

    I don't know, but the Grand Trunk parachute I picked up (OK, forced to pick up after forgetting my hammock on a trip!) is the most comfortable I've tried. I like my Warbonnet Blackbird and Traveler....
  43. Poll: Same here. I don't like the extra weight/bulk of...

    Same here. I don't like the extra weight/bulk of doors when I know I won't need them, but if I could only choose one...this is it.
  44. If you want to rough it, the Hiawatha National...

    If you want to rough it, the Hiawatha National Forest is nearby. No permit required. You can pretty much camp anywhere for free unless posted otherwise. There are also some minor rules about not...
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    Man, I would be up ALL NIGHT!

    Man, I would be up ALL NIGHT!
  46. I would have called them and asked for some...

    I would have called them and asked for some options. Perhaps return or sell the original one once you receive it then reorder. Maybe they could rush that new one.
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    That would be in the hidden, super-premium,...

    That would be in the hidden, super-premium, donation section.
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    Maybe a down hat or mittens?

    Maybe a down hat or mittens?
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    -40 Incubator :scared:

    -40 Incubator :scared:
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    Thanks for the update! I ordered a short 20 on...

    Thanks for the update! I ordered a short 20 on 1/26 so I should be getting close.
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