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    Slowhike and Opie point out the major problem...

    Slowhike and Opie point out the major problem with your suggestion. You could minimize that problem and perhaps achieve some of your objectives by using only one set of tree huggers and hanging the...
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    If you like to have a dog by your side, you have...

    If you like to have a dog by your side, you have to feed one.
    If you like chatting on a forum, you have to feed the forum. If everybody agreed that whoopie slings were the one and only best way,...
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    Words are easy. Pics take a little longer. ...

    Words are easy. Pics take a little longer. Herewith:
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10453&stc=1&d=1273098314
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    Whether "slippery" is good or bad depends on what...

    Whether "slippery" is good or bad depends on what you're trying to do at the moment. If you're trying to carry a heavy load with a very simple knot then it may not hold. But if you're trying to...
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    Start simple. Gain experience. If it ain't...

    Start simple. Gain experience. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Once you've got some experience you'll be able to decide whether the other guy's innovation makes sense for you.
    With today's...
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    Keep It Simple Suspension

    Keep It Simple Suspension

    2 parts: a ring in each end of the hammock and a length of AmSteel for each end. The Deluxe version includes an eye-splice in one end of each length of AmSteel. (The...
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    Been thinking along those lines myself. The need...

    Been thinking along those lines myself. The need for protecting the tree depends on several factors including species of tree and tree size. Trees with thin, smooth bark like birch need protection...
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    So have I. And I suspect that most of us here...

    So have I. And I suspect that most of us here have. But when I first tried, on my own as I do most things I try, I got it wrong quite a few times and was about ready to give it all up before...
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    .....and if you could get it perfectly horizontal...

    .....and if you could get it perfectly horizontal it would break of it's own weight:scared: No math, no engineering, just observe. You will never see a powerline in a straight line from one pole to...
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    Bingo!!! You not only got it right, you...

    Bingo!!! You not only got it right, you explained it well. The only thing I can think of to add is trivial: those who do without a structural ridgeline have only one angle, which is both of the...
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    Ummmmm......sorry, sports fans.........I think I...

    Ummmmm......sorry, sports fans.........I think I failed to make my question clear. A newcomer doesn't need to read many posts before coming across the suggestion of hanging at about thirty degrees. ...
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    Sag

    Is there an established and accepted way of expressing the amount of sag in a suspension line or hammock? Expressions like "generous sag" or "more than you would expect" can mean one thing to one...
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    I hate to be a wet blanket, but the illustrated...

    I hate to be a wet blanket, but the illustrated arrangement is not going to significantly reduce strain on the wall eyes. Explaining "why" would require a mini-course in mechanics that would be...
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    Yeah, I'm sure that when they come out with a...

    Yeah, I'm sure that when they come out with a more expensive version they rename the old version. They mention in the write-up that it's used extensively in fabricating specialized equipment for...
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    Very interesting. Just yesterday I was trying to...

    Very interesting. Just yesterday I was trying to get dimensions for the Omega descender rings and found only weight: 34 g. In the process I found an SMC descender ring that looked very similar to...
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    Actually, properly installed eyebolts do little...

    Actually, properly installed eyebolts do little or no damage to a tree. If a particular hang-site were used quite regularly, they might be better than routinely circling the tree with huggers. I say...
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    Minimizing weight by addressing the tree...

    Minimizing weight by addressing the tree attachment can be quite effective but reducing the width of the tree hugger is not the best place to start. The function of the hugger is to reduce the...
  18. Thread: Hang Knot

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    Well, it looks like the comments and suggestions...

    Well, it looks like the comments and suggestions are about in so I thought I'd mention where I plan to go with it. The reservations that several contributors expressed, or hinted at, together with...
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    Thanks. In fact I found the REI listing after...

    Thanks. In fact I found the REI listing after posting. They give weight but not size. Size is probably not critical for their intended purpose but is for mine. It's looking a bit irrelevant anyway...
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    They caught my eye...had never seen one before. ...

    They caught my eye...had never seen one before. How do they compare in dimensions and weight to the SMC rings????? The Omega website gives no specs except strength.
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    Look at the bright side: twenty years from now...

    Look at the bright side: twenty years from now you'll feel better because you won't remember that you once could remember.:D
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    I hear ya, TeeDee!!! From our house, from the...

    I hear ya, TeeDee!!! From our house, from the bedroom "Where in the (dickens) did I leave my jeans?" From somewhere near the coffee maker "Try looking on the floor on your own side of the...
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    Jerry; I'm well aware of Grizz's fine videos....

    Jerry;
    I'm well aware of Grizz's fine videos. They are very good at introducing the newcomer and providing visual how-to instruction. What I had in mind would be more of a reference document that...
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    TinaLouise, It sounds like you've got it all...

    TinaLouise,
    It sounds like you've got it all worked out just the way you like it, and that's great! I've been following the discussions about whoopie slings, and other applications of the...
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    Albert; I don't see it as abandonment, but...

    Albert;
    I don't see it as abandonment, but rather evolution. I often feel kinda' cheated when somebody just adopts the way I've done something. I want to see improvements on it. As far as...
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    warbonnetguy & TeeDee; Thanks! It's good to...

    warbonnetguy & TeeDee;

    Thanks! It's good to get the reactions of guys who have done similar or identical things, and particularly good to hear of situations where it won't work without serious...
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    I didn't even get to "a stick" if by that you...

    I didn't even get to "a stick" if by that you mean from the forest floor. Even a dowel in as-from-the-store condition is too rough to easily remove. A couple hours in the hammock pulls the...
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    Ha!!! We think alike!!! My first reaction when...

    Ha!!! We think alike!!! My first reaction when the AmSteel-as-toggle idea dawned was "Don't be absurd." But then I thought "Who would ever have known of the Wright Brothers if they had taken that...
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    Hang Knot

    "Keep It Simple, Stupid" has been a goal when assembling my camping kit for as long as I can remember. Lately, I've been trying to simplify and lighten my suspension system while keeping it reliable,...
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    Ignore age, avoid bells and whistles, and buy a...

    Ignore age, avoid bells and whistles, and buy a Bernina.
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    Grizz; Bingo!!! I don't know if I got it right...

    Grizz;
    Bingo!!!
    I don't know if I got it right or not but it works.
    Watching your video, it looked to me like:
    1. take an extra turn around the ring;
    2. tie a slippery half-hitch;
    3. Then,...
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    Just one, like this: ...

    Just one, like this: http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/1/5/8/7/p3180145.jpg
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    Knotting AmSteel Blue

    I'm looking for a quick, simple, way to tie AmSteel Blue to descender rings. I have incorporated descender rings into the gathers at the ends of the hammock. My plan is to secure single lines of...
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    Albert, Thanks for posting the drawings of the...

    Albert,
    Thanks for posting the drawings of the Albright. That is some fancy marlinspike seamanship!!! After you first mentioned it I tried to find it in Ashley and was disappointed.
    I decided to...
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    John. Sorry I didn't respond sooner---I've been...

    John.
    Sorry I didn't respond sooner---I've been trying to understand the above comments. Why would I want the foot end higher than the head end?
    It seems to me that end-height, considered all by...
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    Albert, It sounds to me like we have similar...

    Albert,
    It sounds to me like we have similar preferences but that I have less experience than you do. I use a 'W' fold with the outer edges (of the hammock when in use) pulled out a bit as...
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    Re. which material inside and which outside,...

    Re. which material inside and which outside, consider: nylon stretches; polyester does not. If the nylon is on the inside carrying the weight it will stretch, press against the pad, thence against...
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    All mistakes are opportunities in disguise, he...

    All mistakes are opportunities in disguise, he said, while taking another sip of beer, after cutting a second time and finding that it was still too small.
  39. Speer kits are good, basic design, contain proven...

    Speer kits are good, basic design, contain proven materials, arrive promptly after ordering, and incur only a single shipping charge for the entire ball of wax. Experienced experts may argue over...
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    Damngoat; I hadn't tried a structural ridgeline...

    Damngoat;
    I hadn't tried a structural ridgeline until I got your post. Now I have and you're right, it definitely reduces the squeeze. I have never liked the idea of a structural ridgeline because...
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    Design to minimize shoulder squeeze

    My current hammock (my first) is 3-yd. long. The only aspect of it that I'm less than totally happy with is the amount of shoulder squeeze. I've tried lying on a diagonal and like that even less. ...
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    I'm a fan of "simple." Trying to simplify my...

    I'm a fan of "simple." Trying to simplify my suspension, I tried to tie 7/64 Amsteel Blue to a descender ring with a single slippery half hitch. True to it's name, it slipped. So I made a second...
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    Thanks, Jerry; I had searched and searched that...

    Thanks, Jerry; I had searched and searched that site without success. How you found it beats me but my order is IN. Now we get to see if they still have it in stock.
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    Nice hammocks! Nice pics! Does anybuddy know...

    Nice hammocks! Nice pics! Does anybuddy know where the fabric is currently available? The vendor mentioned doesn't. Google doesn't. All I can find is a slew of Chinese manufacturers that would...
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    The "best" length is subjective, not objective. ...

    The "best" length is subjective, not objective. I always tend to minimize weight as long as I don't create "excessive" inconvenience. I make mine just long enough to go around 90% of the trees I...
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    Having been a cabinet and furniture maker in a...

    Having been a cabinet and furniture maker in a previous life, I use small scraps of exotic rainforest hardwoods including ebony, rosewood, bubinga, bloodwood & others. From all of the above it seems...
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    Just stumbled upon this thread last evening and...

    Just stumbled upon this thread last evening and got totally absorbed--right up until I noticed my wife fingering the handle of a cast iron skillet. Finished this morning. So, I thought I'd share...
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    Actually, I haven't. I was leaning in the...

    Actually, I haven't. I was leaning in the direction of 5/16" or 3/8" nylon thimbles sold by boating, especially sailing, chandlers when I was handed a diagnosis of chronic Lyme disease with a...
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    Albert; Quite frankly, I'm skeptical of friction...

    Albert;
    Quite frankly, I'm skeptical of friction hitches with any synthetics. Sheathing is (in part, at least) an attempt to overcome the inherent slipperiness of synthetics but comes with it's own...
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    Quick tip for canoeists

    I stuff my down bag into a 35 liter ultralight drybag with a Hypalon air-tight closure, then inside a more rugged stuffsack. That's a very light stuffing; the result is 12" diameter by nearly two...
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