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    Sticky: Wildmike4- It never ends :) but that's a good...

    Wildmike4- It never ends :) but that's a good thing!
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    Sticky: Interesting, the Whoopie was cutting edge back in...

    Interesting, the Whoopie was cutting edge back in 2009. I still use them, but there are a number of other options out there. I'm glad to see the instructions are still available, even though I...
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    Sticky: Whoopie- The name says it all :). Glad the...

    Whoopie- The name says it all :). Glad the tutorial was useful. Sounds like you've got the family involved, too. What a great thing.

    And to everyone else that has said nice things, much...
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    Sticky: Wow! That's amazing. To lose 13 oz by just...

    Wow! That's amazing. To lose 13 oz by just switching suspension.
    -Mark
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    Sticky: You're Welcome- and Thanks to Hammock Forums!

    Appreciate the thanks of everyone that has found these instructions useful. Even better if you have actually made a whoopie or two. I still find them kind of amazing. The a piece of wire bent in half...
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    Sticky: Yeah, as I mention a couple of posts ago, wire is...

    Yeah, as I mention a couple of posts ago, wire is the way to go. Back in the day, when I did the tutorial, I didn't have any wire:mellow:, but I was able to raid my wife's sewing box, so yarn darner...
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    Sticky: To the newer folks: Welcome! and thanks everyone...

    To the newer folks: Welcome! and thanks everyone for the positive feedback.
    Glad the whoopies are working out for you. (gd___ you should post some pics. That sounds like an interesting variation.) ...
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    Sticky: To friartuck, Ras Billy, Beatle405, etc, Glad...

    To friartuck, Ras Billy, Beatle405, etc,

    Glad the instructions were helpful. It is hard to believe this thread is still going after all this time.

    One tip is to ditch the yarn darning needle...
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    Sticky: Looks like you're doing a nice job. I will second...

    Looks like you're doing a nice job. I will second the taper. Remove half the total number of strands as shumway states. The tutorial uses a 12 strand line so 3 pairs (6) were clipped. For eight...
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    Sticky: Glad it was helpful. (Sorry about the slow...

    Glad it was helpful. (Sorry about the slow response, but I hadn't checked this tread in quite a while) Anyway- Happy Trails.
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    Sticky: You are welcome, but really my instructions were...

    You are welcome, but really my instructions were just a meager attempt at giving back to this community for all the wonderful information and kind folks that populate this site.

    As to the length I...
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    Sticky: I know that HH always seems to suggest that you...

    I know that HH always seems to suggest that you hang the hammock pretty tight. Their videos and instructions say tie "tightly", but generally the rest of us think 30 degrees of droop is preferable as...
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    Sticky: I have never had a problem with amsteel wearing...

    I have never had a problem with amsteel wearing the gathered ends of my hammocks and several hammock come with amsteel stock from the manufactures. This is for 1/8 and 7/64 inch amsteel. Smaller...
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    Sticky: Paul sells it at ArrowHeatEquiptment HERE...

    Paul sells it at ArrowHeatEquiptment HERE. I've also gotten it from Redden Marine.
    -Mark
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    Sticky: To avoid this, some folks use a bead on the line...

    To avoid this, some folks use a bead on the line before they bury it. Anything will work and if you want you can just tie a scrap of line around the cord making up the loop after the whoopie sling is...
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    Sticky: Here we are, almost one year from ZA206's first...

    Here we are, almost one year from ZA206's first post on UCR's with TeeDee/TiredFeet and Frawg still making improvements and doing a little good natured jousting about the merits of whoopies and UCRs....
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    Sticky: Go to the 6:00 min. mark in THIS...

    Go to the 6:00 min. mark in THIS Grizz tutorial on suspensions. It is on the Marlinspike Hitch. Very simple. Many use what Grizz shows in the video. It is what I use. Has never dropped me or even...
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    Sticky: May folks use Permethrin...

    May folks use Permethrin spray for their hammocks, sock, clothes, etc. I should be fine for the lines, too. If you use DEET, (I'm not a big DEET guy, but) I would soak a sample piece of line in it...
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    Sticky: Well, Just curious. Anyway, Whoopies and other...

    Well, Just curious.
    Anyway, Whoopies and other constrictors are kinda fun to make and play around with. Enjoy!:)
    -Mark
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    Sticky: Cute. Now make a hammock out of a silk...

    Cute. Now make a hammock out of a silk handkerchief and you will have a sweet setup for a....
    hamster.:lol: BTW, What kind of line is that?
    - Mark
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    Sticky: TEN GRAMS!!!!!! Is that both sides or just one?...

    TEN GRAMS!!!!!! Is that both sides or just one? How long are they? And have you actually tried them out? Inquiring minds want to know:)
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    Sticky: Thanks nacra533. ' Appreciate the info.

    Thanks nacra533. ' Appreciate the info.
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    Sticky: So , do I have this right? You could use this...

    So , do I have this right? You could use this Loop Connector in WLMIller54's setup above in place of the descending ring and just figure on replacing it every so often?
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    Sticky: The clevis and hitch pin are great, but you might...

    The clevis and hitch pin are great, but you might consider just a short piece of hardwood dowel. 1/2 inch diameter is probably adequate. You can drill a hole in one end and thread a small piece of...
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    Sticky: GvilleDave, Welcome to the world of...

    GvilleDave,

    Welcome to the world of Whoopie,:lol: and congratulations on making it all the way trough the thread. :thumbup:

    I am amazed at the continued development of the constrictor systems....
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    Sticky: I might mention here that I am using a pair of...

    I might mention here that I am using a pair of Opie's Whoopies on my Blackbird right now and last week, when I was breaking camp in a hurry to beat the rain, I yanked the sling not realizing I was...
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    Sticky: Actually, you can just tie a short piece of rope...

    Actually, you can just tie a short piece of rope or twine loosely around the line of your whoopie loop to prevent accidentally pulling it all the way in and the loop becoming a backsplice. The bead...
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    Sticky: I used 12' in the tutorial because I've rarely...

    I used 12' in the tutorial because I've rarely ever had to span more than 20 feet which is roughly what your two whoopies and hammock will give you. Once or twice I have extended the length by making...
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    Sticky: I use a 10 inch nominal bury, as in the...

    I use a 10 inch nominal bury, as in the instructions, but once the bury is completed it is more like 8.5 to 9 inches. If you tie directly to the hammock with a knot you can essentially shorten the...
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    Sticky: Captn, Love your Shakespeare quote.

    Captn,

    Love your Shakespeare quote.
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    Sticky: Dutch, are you using 1/8" amsteel blue? Other...

    Dutch, are you using 1/8" amsteel blue?

    Other than some minor fuzzing I haven't seen any significant wear on my 1/8" amsteel blue lines. I am also using a 10" nominal bury (after the bury it is...
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    Sticky: I recently used mine in Colorado during 2 nights...

    I recently used mine in Colorado during 2 nights of heavy rain and the free ends as the only drip strips and they worked perfectly. Nary a drop made it past.
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    Sticky: I'm glad folks have found the instructions...

    I'm glad folks have found the instructions useful. I really want to thank ZA206, TeeDee, Frawg, nacra533, hangnout and many more who first worked on this idea here at HF. And I really appreciate the...
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    Sticky: I have some very old AriCore Plus and it is 8...

    I have some very old AriCore Plus and it is 8 strand so, to elaborate on what Grizz said, for the taper I would only remove 4 strands (1/2 of the total number of strands). In the tutorial I was using...
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    Sticky: Not that this advances the whoopie sling in any...

    Not that this advances the whoopie sling in any meaningful way, but I just want to report two things.

    1. I just got back from 4 nights in the Weminuche Wildereness in So. Colorado using a whoopie...
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    Sticky: Twelve foot hugger ( left over from my days in...

    Twelve foot hugger ( left over from my days in Oregon ) and marlin spike with a toogle.
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    Sticky: Yeah, I find I have to be careful with the...

    Yeah, I find I have to be careful with the initial push through, but the pull has not given me any problems.... yet.:) Let's just say that it is a vast improvement over the original darn yarn darning...
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    Sticky: ikemouser, No difference in the lay of the...

    ikemouser,

    No difference in the lay of the hammock.

    Using the webbing around the tree to protect the tree. My webbing has a sewn in loop at the end. I slip the free end of the webbing through...
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    Sticky: While we are on fids (fe fi fo fid...) I found...

    While we are on fids (fe fi fo fid...) I found this "loop turner" at a JoAnn Fabrics (Dritz 647) about $4. At nearly 10 inches is is a great pull fid, but the tapered end of the 1/8 Amsteel is...
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    Sticky: Fuzzie, Welcome to HF. Just out of curiousity,...

    Fuzzie, Welcome to HF.

    Just out of curiousity, how long did it take you to make one? I assume the first one took a little longer.
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    Sticky: Ok, I agree with Grizz- That is Cool:shades:

    Ok, I agree with Grizz- That is Cool:shades:
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    Sticky: Frawg, Quick question: is that white(grey)...

    Frawg,

    Quick question: is that white(grey) loop on the right an endless loop? i.e. one end just buried into the other?
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    Sticky: You are right, I just measured and my finished...

    You are right, I just measured and my finished Whoopie bury length is actually 8.5". I keep forgetting that the bury shortens the rope a little.

    As to using a shorter bury for the loop tied to the...
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    Sticky: Frankly, I really like the esthetic appeal of the...

    Frankly, I really like the esthetic appeal of the splicing, maybe even more than the convenience and functionality.

    It's- Way Cool!:D
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    Sticky: Ken, I am about to change out my HH suspension...

    Ken, I am about to change out my HH suspension for Whoopie Slings. I plan on using the bowline method to keep the length down. If I do an 8 inch bury (with stitches) at each end of the hammock...
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    Sticky: I thought of the same thing, but my wife wouldn't...

    I thought of the same thing, but my wife wouldn't let me chop up one of her knitting needles.:lol: So I made do with the darn yarn darning needle. I think a size 3 knitting needle cut to size might...
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    Sticky: Smurf hands here, too.:laugh:

    Smurf hands here, too.:laugh:
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    Sticky: Grizz, I was having a hard time duplicating...

    Grizz,

    I was having a hard time duplicating your experience, but it finally occurred to me that you probably had either a heavy hammock or some gear inside causing it to pull enough to keep the...
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    Sticky: Great Idea. How did you do the eye splice. With...

    Great Idea. How did you do the eye splice. With the Locked Brummel or the straight bury?

    -SlowBro
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    Sticky: Glad this is useful.:) I found this splicing to...

    Glad this is useful.:) I found this splicing to be a fun project and the fact that it might even be useful is frosting on the cake. It will be interesting to get feed back from hangers using this...
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