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  1. I'm pretty sure it was WCC where I 1st came down...

    I'm pretty sure it was WCC where I 1st came down with a case of poison oak(or Ivy maybe, but probably oak out there. ) . 1st time I ever got it, at about age 34-35, after a lifetime of roaming the...
  2. Welcome, one without valves! It's been 30 years...

    Welcome, one without valves! It's been 30 years since I lived in Flagstaff and Phoenix before that, but I remember West Clear Creek being a beautiful place. Just keep an eye out for poison Oak!
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    WOW! What kind of bike is that and what kind of...

    WOW! What kind of bike is that and what kind of tires? I used to mountain bike off road years ago and I have really been wanting to get back into it.

    As I said earlier, Explorer UL bottom entry...
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    Ditto all of that. The problem with any...

    Ditto all of that. The problem with any recommendations from any of us is that, IMO, it's kind of like asking me to recommend the most comfortable pair of shoes for you based on what is comfy on my...
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    Wow! Sorry to hear about all of that. My 7+ years...

    Wow! Sorry to hear about all of that. My 7+ years old Claytor No Net remains one of my fav hammocks, and still using the original suspension. There are a few others here(not many but some) that rate...
  6. Hooray! Slumbering away is a good thing!

    Hooray! Slumbering away is a good thing!
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    OK, got the clothes(boots, socks, pants, shirt,...

    OK, got the clothes(boots, socks, pants, shirt, base ball cap as well as pack) treated with Sawyer spray finally. Hiked and did NOT treat exposed skin(arms and face/head/neck) with 20% Picaridin as...
  8. Is the OP asking about the dunes down in NM near...

    Is the OP asking about the dunes down in NM near Cloudcroft(Atomic Bomb test site) or the one across the northern NM border in Colorado's Sangre de Cristos??
  9. I know, it is hard for me to logically make my...

    I know, it is hard for me to logically make my claim. I am fairly broad shouldered. And the JRBs I use have considerably less shoulder room- especially my deep original model- than the WBRR that gave...
  10. Oh, sorry, poor wording on my part I guess,...

    Oh, sorry, poor wording on my part I guess, because I guess that info about how beneficial pads were for you eliminating calf pressure resulted in in me wanting to point back to bridge hammocks....
  11. It is all such an individual thing IMO, and just...

    It is all such an individual thing IMO, and just hard to say. As has been said, try one out at a hang or with Punk as above.

    But here is the thing about trying one out: it can take time. Years...
  12. Well, this still gets us back to bridge hammocks,...

    Well, this still gets us back to bridge hammocks, but I think pads work mighty fine in a dbl layer bridge. And there is something to be said for that approach, even though calf pressure is already...
  13. Thanks for all the comments, everyone! You...

    Thanks for all the comments, everyone!


    You should quit, unless of course you don't want too! I guess the saving grace about all of this is it is not the most expensive hobby in the world. We...
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    Here are some directions for using 0.5% spray(it...

    Here are some directions for using 0.5% spray(it works for me!):
    http://sawyer.com/maximize-effectiveness-permethrin-fabric-treatment/

    Here are some Sawyer Soak Kit directions which should apply...
  15. A favorite hammock at last? Maybe! Switchback!

    I started hanging in 06 on a trip to WY's Wind River Mountains with my brand new HH Explorer UL and HHSS. Loved it then, still a big fan of that combo now. During the 8 or 9 years since, I became...
  16. Welcome! Must be fun hanging where there's a...

    Welcome! Must be fun hanging where there's a bright, golden haze on the meadow, and the corn is as high as an elephant's eye, and all the sounds of the earth are like music!
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    That is odd, but now that you mention that, same...

    That is odd, but now that you mention that, same here. I grew up in the woods of GA and AL and I also do not recall ever having to remove a tick, though I got plenty of skeeter bites. I wonder why no...
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    Thanks for that, it brings back memories! I never...

    Thanks for that, it brings back memories! I never hiked Bell Canyon, but your pics remind me of a bunch of Wasatch canyon hiking I did, including some waterfalls! But that was before my hanging days.
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    So you were using your pad for back insulation in...

    So you were using your pad for back insulation in the hammock? If so, how wide is the pad? Pads need to be wider in a hammock. Or your shoulders will compress your bag into the side of the hammock...
  20. Good job, Shug! Secondary suspensions added to...

    Good job, Shug! Secondary suspensions added to those full surround suspensions are def a big help against the dreaded accordion effect. I have always suspected that potential reason for when my...
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    That does sound like superb service indeed!...

    That does sound like superb service indeed! Although, I do not know what you mean by these DIY anchors that you took too much off of resulting in cold feet?

    Or, reading again, I guess you mean you...
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    Kurt, Do you mean "I've had an UQ for about a...

    Kurt,
    Do you mean "I've had an UQ for about a year"?

    I fully agree with what you point out about the security of the HHSS with it's included under cover as part of the basic system, part of the...
  23. Wow! What a trip report! It reminds me a bit- in...

    Wow! What a trip report! It reminds me a bit- in the battles against hypothermia at least- of the Mt. Rogers winter hang a few years back.

    Swimmers wearing cotton, now there is an education! SS,...
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    Welcome, Firehiker, from North MS now but raised...

    Welcome, Firehiker, from North MS now but raised mostly in Columbus, GA!
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    Ditto!................

    Ditto!................
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    Yep, don't forget that. I have found this being...

    Yep, don't forget that. I have found this being blocked by VB clothing can account for 20F worth of extra protection, without even counting the benefits of keeping moisture out of the insulation on...
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    Welcome to my club, Mark! I was amazed at how...

    Welcome to my club, Mark! I was amazed at how well this worked at 10F with my PeaPod. I also did a similar experiment to you expecting a bad result the 1st time. But I was told by someone else that...
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    HHs are longer than you might think. Of course,...

    HHs are longer than you might think. Of course, the Expedition is among the shorter in the HH line. Seems like I recently measured one of my HH Explorers and it was over 10 ft, but I can't remember...
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    Here Ya go, post #9:...

    Here Ya go, post #9:
    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/23808-Arizona-West-Clear-Creek-Trip-Report?highlight=skunk
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    Me too! I have their MW4, and a special MW3. Ans...

    Me too! I have their MW4, and a special MW3. Ans a 900FP D/C'ed convertible model. It can be used in full length mode, or the foot end is removable to convert it to a shorter model, which is how I...
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    JBurke, like Kurt says, it is easy to add...

    JBurke,
    like Kurt says, it is easy to add whatever below the pad. If you are at least almost warm enough at 26F- and sounds like you are and if you are that's hard to beat for the weight and price...
  32. PS: I should add: none of this applies to...

    PS: I should add: none of this applies to Climashield, which does not need/use baffles, and loft/warmth always increases proportionately with weight. If you have an X degree rated CS quilt, and you...
  33. Well it certainly is a debatable subject. If you...

    Well it certainly is a debatable subject. If you go to the link that Boston provided you will find overstuff vs simply using the extra down weight to increase loft discussed ad infinitum. Plus there...
  34. Seahawkfan, WOW, what a trip, and I'm glad you...

    Seahawkfan, WOW, what a trip, and I'm glad you got back alive and did not break through all the way! I'm not surprised you had to vent with a bag + bag/pod + thermarest, because it apparently was not...
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    Good to know, I always thought his products...

    Good to know, I always thought his products looked great!

    Were these zero or 20F quilts? Used on gathered end hammocks?
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    usually, but not always, and all according to...

    usually, but not always, and all according to temperature. I have worn them under wool socks plus Polarguard booties resulting in overheating feet at 6F. And, I might add, zero condensation outside...
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    Thx for that, I did not know about their videos!...

    Thx for that, I did not know about their videos!
    http://www.jacksrbetter.com/videos/
  38. That looks like great fun, Stevebo! I grew up in...

    That looks like great fun, Stevebo! I grew up in Columbus and spent a lot of summer days swimming at Calloway Gardens, and I have driven on the road over Pine Mt., but I never hiked up there. Heck, I...
  39. That was a great video! I do love those Catalina...

    That was a great video! I do love those Catalina Mtns, though actually I love AZ. I think the largest # of my favorite outdoors memories are in AZ.
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    I once had huge condensation in the foot area at...

    I once had huge condensation in the foot area at right about 45-50F. But very often I use vapor barrier socks, and this is the end of any condensation no matter what else I am using, and whether I am...
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    Thx for the warning, I was afraid of this. Last...

    Thx for the warning, I was afraid of this. Last time I was out was a couple of weeks ago about 90 minutes west of Sipsey, and did not see any. But, it is so much warmer now, almost record today. But...
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    It might be a fine pad, but are you thinking of...

    It might be a fine pad, but are you thinking of using it in the HHSS to replace the HH pad? I don't think that would work very well. The HH pad is very flexible and is formed to curve around your...
  43. OK, thanks for the clarification, Boston. I can't...

    OK, thanks for the clarification, Boston. I can't really find much - if anything - to disagree with in that post. I think there may have been some miscommunication going on, probably mostly from me....
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    I don't know exactly, but no doubt you can exceed...

    I don't know exactly, but no doubt you can exceed any single commercially available UQ( well, I guess, are there any rated much more than about zero? Probably there are if custom) with enough pads....
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    That chart seems a bit optimistic to me...

    That chart seems a bit optimistic to me particularly for hammock hangers using quilts and even more so for UQs. But, I'm sure it would be fine for warm sleepers and depending on what layers you are...
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    Altuistguy says: Wow, not only 900 nights, but...

    Altuistguy says:

    Wow, not only 900 nights, but 900 dry nights! That is a bunch! And quite a testament to the ability to keep down dry. Although, like you said, that was car camping. But even...
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    Consider sewing loops on various items or bags...

    Consider sewing loops on various items or bags containing those items, and attaching shock cord or nylon cord to the RL loops on each end of you RL inside the hammock. And of course, there is the RL...
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    LOL! that should get some interesting responses!...

    LOL! that should get some interesting responses! As for me, I can see the pros and cons of both, but actually lean a bit towards Climashield for those deep wilderness trips where I can not bail...
  49. Any time the bottom of your hammock is hanging...

    Any time the bottom of your hammock is hanging below the bottom edges of your tarp, or if the ends are open and very close to the hammock, side ways rain can be real tricky. I've always been amazed...
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    Very nice. Which Arrowhead quilts did you have?...

    Very nice. Which Arrowhead quilts did you have? Do you know the actual non-windchill temp? For a noob, you are really gettin er done!
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