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  1. There's theory, and there's reality. You're gonna...

    There's theory, and there's reality. You're gonna get wet, very wet, using any tarp in a diamond configuration. It's just not going to cover you in blowing precipitation. A lot of wind gets under...
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    A lot of seams - not sure I follow what's the...

    A lot of seams - not sure I follow what's the deal with all the panels.
  3. Not afraid of getting a little damp? Then the...

    Not afraid of getting a little damp? Then the tarp world is your oyster! Or whatever the saying is.

    Personally, I can't tolerate getting damp, ever. I have an HG Winter Palace, and if I didn't...
  4. Diamond tarps just don't provide the coverage I...

    Diamond tarps just don't provide the coverage I need.
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    I would, but I think you'd like it too much!:lol:

    I would, but I think you'd like it too much!:lol:
  6. You're gonna need a tarp and some insulation!

    You're gonna need a tarp and some insulation!
  7. The Fronkey is meant to be used with a hammock...

    The Fronkey is meant to be used with a hammock ridgeline - you can order a Fronkey for a 10 ft. or 11 ft. hammock. As long as you have a hammock ridgeline, and you order the right size, it shouldn't...
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    I can't fathom it either. I'm not trying...

    I can't fathom it either.



    I'm not trying to be right - I'm trying to figure out what the heck the OP is posting. It makes no sense to me. I know the HG product line and just want to understand...
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    Some people like to be able to use the topquilt...

    Some people like to be able to use the topquilt as a a regular quilt. Therefore, they have snaps rather than an insulated footbox. Others like the idea that they can vent the footbox via the snaps....
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    Then I could call the Mamajamba a Superfly...

    Then I could call the Mamajamba a Superfly without doors? Makes perfect sense.
  11. I'm 5'11" and 165 lbs. I'm not sure what you're...

    I'm 5'11" and 165 lbs. I'm not sure what you're saying.
  12. I've been using a Fronkey since they were first...

    I've been using a Fronkey since they were first commercially offered. I've never gotten bit and it doesn't hang in my face at all.

    You should investigate permethrin if you're really paranoid about...
  13. I've been using a Fronkey bugnet for several...

    I've been using a Fronkey bugnet for several years - never came near my face or any other body part.
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    Wow, that's elaborate. I just use regular...

    Wow, that's elaborate. I just use regular polyester thread and create 4 or 5 lock stitches. Never had a failure.
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    I'll be posting a pic of my Warbonnet Chubby...

    I'll be posting a pic of my Warbonnet Chubby Puppy tarp shortly.
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    I look forward to seeing you guys again!

    I look forward to seeing you guys again!
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    Here's a pic of my Warbonnet Superfly and my...

    Here's a pic of my Warbonnet Superfly and my Warbonnet Superfish.

    "What's a Warbonnet Superfish?" you ask. "How come it's not on the website? Is it a custom job?"

    Silence.
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    All I can say about the Snugpak products is the...

    All I can say about the Snugpak products is the weight:

    Hammock Under Blanket 46.5 ounces
    Hammock Quilt 29.5 ounces
    Hammock Cocoon 67 ounces

    If those weights make sense to you, then buy a...
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    I'd buy the Jarbidge in a heartbeat, but throwing...

    I'd buy the Jarbidge in a heartbeat, but throwing $100 away on Snugpak stuff doesn't make sense to me.
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    Yeah, I wanna hear about that!

    Yeah, I wanna hear about that!
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    Well, a reflective blanket is not insulation, but...

    Well, a reflective blanket is not insulation, but it is (usually) a vapor barrier, which will hold in the moisture evaporating from the body. The lower the temperature you go, the more condensation...
  22. You should put that video in the trip report...

    You should put that video in the trip report section.

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    Does anyone commercially offer an asym UQ? Seems...

    Does anyone commercially offer an asym UQ? Seems like a bit of a drag keeping two different stocks of quilts, head left-feet right, or head right-feet left. I guess you could flip the UQ depending...
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    I guess I was a bit more stubborn than you. I...

    I guess I was a bit more stubborn than you. I refused to buy an underquilt for 2 years, and stuck with pads. I couldn't "justify" an underquilt. Of course, it's hard to "justify" what you've never...
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    I use whoopie hooks, so the dogbone is definitely...

    I use whoopie hooks, so the dogbone is definitely longer.
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    Dogbones will be longer, if using the standard...

    Dogbones will be longer, if using the standard measurements and recommended buries. Therefore, I use continuous loops to keep from lengthening the hammock.
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    That's what I'm not seeing. How could it make any...

    That's what I'm not seeing. How could it make any difference if one end of the hammock was raised via tree straps or via whoopie slings?



    Not necessarily - depends on how high you are trying...
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    I don't know - it seems like a dubious assertion...

    I don't know - it seems like a dubious assertion that raising the foot end straps on the tree maintains the 30* angle we desire, but tightening the whoopie sling affects the 30* angle. If one end of...
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    If I raise the straps on one tree, then it's...

    If I raise the straps on one tree, then it's definitely not at a 30 degree angle. I personally think we're talking about six of one, a half dozen of the other. As I mentioned, I strive to use the...
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    I have never tried hanging my straps at different...

    I have never tried hanging my straps at different levels to achieve head lower/foot higher. It seems like a primitive option for people who have non-adjustable or poorly adjustable suspensions (think...
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    I do raise the foot end a couple of inches, but...

    I do raise the foot end a couple of inches, but that is just to keep me from sliding down, and not because of calf ridge.

    However, I use a simple, gathered-end hammock. With integrated hammocks, I...
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    Have you ever had an experienced hanger help you...

    Have you ever had an experienced hanger help you snug up the Incubator? I can't do it by myself because I can't see anything when I'm in the hammock.
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    Welcome to HF! It seems like a darned shame to...

    Welcome to HF! It seems like a darned shame to use a pad with such an expensive hammock. You'll spend at least $40 adding a second layer, which would be 1/4 the cost of a 40* F UQ.

    Hammock...
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    I'm not sure I understand your first point. "Back...

    I'm not sure I understand your first point. "Back and forth" adjustments would seem to be more of a function of the primary suspension.

    One thing about the HG UQ suspension - I can't adjust it by...
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    It would be helpful to know if you really have...

    It would be helpful to know if you really have some sort of custom HG tarp that is not listed on the website - an HG standard "without" doors, or if you are just making up your own terminology. I...
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    Keep it up - you're gonna get Ratdog all paranoid...

    Keep it up - you're gonna get Ratdog all paranoid again. And he just bought himself his own drone - a major breakthrough for him!
  37. Well, at least they have more support than...

    Well, at least they have more support than originally anticipated!
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    I personally don't think I'd go there. I had a...

    I personally don't think I'd go there. I had a Phoenix 20* with only the primary suspension and it's nowhere near as adjustable as the primary plus secondary.
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    I am not doubting you - I am just trying to...

    I am not doubting you - I am just trying to figure out what you have and whether it's a custom order. They don't sell a Standard without doors, so it must have been a custom order. If it is a custom...
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    If cost is your number one concern, then all the...

    If cost is your number one concern, then all the other concerns are kind of irrelevant. A synthetic Jarbidge UQ ($100) is going to cost half what the Phoenix ($199) costs. Of course, the Phoenix will...
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    Looks like a nice trip!

    Looks like a nice trip!
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    I always get a chuckle out of "winter" hammocks,...

    I always get a chuckle out of "winter" hammocks, especially one that says, " Designed for hammock camping in colder weather, the F.O.B was engineered around heat retention techniques and has been...
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    There is no such tarp, a Cuben standard without...

    There is no such tarp, a Cuben standard without doors, on the website. So did you special order? If so, what are the dimensions?

    The HG Hex (no doors) is listed as 5.3 ounces, and the HG standard...
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    I know what the website says - there is no such...

    I know what the website says - there is no such thing as an HG Standard without doors.
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    HG Standard without doors? They don't make such ...

    HG Standard without doors? They don't make such a tarp. Wouldn't that be a Hex tarp?
  46. Poll: I'm not sure I understand why a Winter Palace is...

    I'm not sure I understand why a Winter Palace is an XL Winter Tarp and the Superfly is a standard winter tarp when they are basically the same dimensions.
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    I don't think I'd be all that wary about down,...

    I don't think I'd be all that wary about down, especially Dri-Down.
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    I don't think 1.9 lbs. is a modest weight; ...

    I don't think 1.9 lbs. is a modest weight; that's why you don't hear much about them.
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    Welcome from the Jersey Shore. Why are you...

    Welcome from the Jersey Shore. Why are you leaning towards a double layer? Dutch has plenty of hammocks that will easily bear your weight in a single layer. About the only advantage for a double...
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    I started with 10 ft. whoopie slings and 10 ft....

    I started with 10 ft. whoopie slings and 10 ft. straps, but gradually realized that the East Coast trees just aren't that big (due to clear-cutting in 19th/20th century). I now use 4 ft. straps and 6...
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