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  1. A less worthy alternative is archived here: The...

    A less worthy alternative is archived here: The threaded-end fiberglass rods for fishing electrical wires sold by Harbor Freight.
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    User of several Clark’s over a decade, w > 500...

    User of several Clark’s over a decade, w > 500 nights.
    1. The usual hang angle implying virtual ridge line length holds:
    Measure the maximum laid-out flat length of the hammock with a string from...
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    Sticky: There's a coincidence of the recommended 3Odegree...

    There's a coincidence of the recommended 3Odegree hang angle, the recommended length of the hung hammock compared to the total length, and natural optimal packing, as in the hexagonal honeycomb...
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    And I'm back 6 years later with this advice:...

    And I'm back 6 years later with this advice: several tight wraps of cello tape around the fiberglass ends to reduce green-stick fractures at the brass tips.
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    Me: Clarks from UL to NX 250, all moded. Yep, a...

    Me: Clarks from UL to NX 250, all moded.
    Yep, a loop or 2g. clip sewn into the foot of every one to hang gear sack. And clips sewn on all, into seams, for other accessories.

    At my age, I can't...
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    I have light adjustable elastic pulling the hoops...

    I have light adjustable elastic pulling the hoops -- what you call poles -- gently back toward the ends. That's because I set up with a bit more sag, and I want the hoops to hold the netting a bit...
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    Like a tandem bicycle in some respects, in...

    Like a tandem bicycle in some respects, in preparing for a long tour. If one of the pair doesn't want to spend many hours per day on a saddle, there is no way it is going to work.

    And sleep is...
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    Go to my pics. I just initiated 2QZQ replicating...

    Go to my pics. I just initiated 2QZQ replicating Clark's own sleeves and holders for hoops for openness. I could have done it myself, but not close to perfectly, as an expert did. The project was...
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    From long ownership and use of Clarks, I suggest...

    From long ownership and use of Clarks, I suggest you try the noseum with pins, starting with a much wider mesh than Clark uses for the screening. You might pretreat it with permethrin or some other...
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    I'm glad you brought this up. Too often goes...

    I'm glad you brought this up. Too often goes unmentioned. If midges are not a problem that cannot be addressed by saturating coarser netting in permethrin, then fine mesh stuff not only raises temps,...
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    Similar can be found from Ikea, for convenience,...

    Similar can be found from Ikea, for convenience, if there is one near you

    http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/44361010/
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    Excellent, excellent suggestions. There is just...

    Excellent, excellent suggestions. There is just no substitute for practice, and the learning curve doesn't have to be steep. The difference between NO experience and some to be gained with the...
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    The Clark original, shown on my page, does have 6...

    The Clark original, shown on my page, does have 6 tie outs, but I mostly use 4. The foot-end pair can wrap to the tree or under foot-end line, as I have often said: without furthering limiting the...
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    The Clark original, shown on my page, does have 6...

    The Clark original, shown on my page, does have 6 tie outs, but I mostly use 4. The foot-end pair can wrap to the tree or under foot-end line, as I have often said: without furthering limiting the...
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    Per another Clark thread here, I have advocated...

    Per another Clark thread here, I have advocated for smaller tarps and smarter pitches, which work fine for sleep. The taste here and in the market, is for larger tarps. So, Clark no longer makes a...
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    If this helps: The current standard Clark rain...

    If this helps: The current standard Clark rain fly is not to be confused with the long-discontinued smaller one, 3 dimensional in tailoring. The current Vertex rain fly is the same width at head and...
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    Would someone remind me why a 1" strap long...

    Would someone remind me why a 1" strap long enough to wrap the tree 1.5 times won't do? Yes, it would be about tree radius x pi longer than necessary.... But the load bearing would all be on 2" of...
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    I just pulled mine to see how little space I...

    I just pulled mine to see how little space I could stuff it into. A 2 qt or 2 liter bag will do, easily, if you fold and roll. Or find a bag for a similar 11 x 11 tarp from JRB or AHE
  19. Thread: Clark 250

    by DemostiX
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    Hammocks are different from your experience on...

    Hammocks are different from your experience on the ground.
    Put that Clark up soon (and often) in your back yard, or in a park, and let us know what issues you have with it!!!
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    Be sure you have extra length, for large trees or...

    Be sure you have extra length, for large trees or greater than expected distances. have it somewhere in your kit, whether in an an extra strap, one whoopie longer than the other or an extra-long...
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    Put numbers to Bubba's explanation of why the...

    Put numbers to Bubba's explanation of why the straps have not yet failed. Typical Safe Working Load (SWL) is 1/3 to 1/5 the rated breaking strength. So, the inverse of those fractions is the likely...
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    I seem to recall some one at HF had a Climashield...

    I seem to recall some one at HF had a Climashield pad underquilt composed of two layers. The seam on one side was sealed with Velcro or a zipper, and he removed one of the pads for the shoulder...
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    Glad you found bethandevans. Quite a page,with a...

    Glad you found bethandevans. Quite a page,with a great compilation of tests to failure, and solutions I hadn't seen before.
  24. Drafts can be a major source of discomfort. A...

    Drafts can be a major source of discomfort.
    A feature of the pockets on the Clarks is that they can be lightly filled so they act as compressible gaskets. The ridges and furrows that form in...
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    Why not?

    With most of my first time in hammocks iin a Clark, and all of them have hoods, I don't mind the blocked view directly over my head and behind me. When I am using a Tropical, where it's hood may be...
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    Nope, for once, I was careful and got it right....

    Nope, for once, I was careful and got it right. The 327 kit is of 13" rods (with brass screw-together connectors.) Four of them give you the desired 51-52" length, leaving one extra from that $5 kit...
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    I was just in climbing gear store. I saw nothing...

    I was just in climbing gear store. I saw nothing that has changed my comment in this thread found in #3. If you are willing to spend, then Dyneema slings can be found in the market, at a price, and...
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    I hope elders besides Rain Man would agree with...

    I hope elders besides Rain Man would agree with my advice on this. (I am pleased to follow up and expand on someone who I know from his experience as a spelunker -- cave diver -- knows a whole lot...
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    If we're on to items as small as gloves, and you...

    If we're on to items as small as gloves, and you want to believe in shiny, then why not recycle and fabricate from the tough, light, and resilient shipping bags FedEx and UPS use? I estimate the...
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    The poles here are fiberglass sticks. Per...

    The poles here are fiberglass sticks. Per archives here at HF I found excellent substitutes for Clark,s T Harbor Freight, in their inexpensive electricians' fish rods kits. Another source would be a...
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    No, this is a misunderstanding and impossible in...

    No, this is a misunderstanding and impossible in the context of the entire reply I just read.

    "However, things get a bit more complicated if you are talking about the strength of endless loop, or...
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    I've bothered more here on safety margins than most

    Does that mean I expect to fall if I use ---carefully -- some 400 lb rated line for whoopie slings or soft-shackles? No, and I'd rather use them than sleep on the ground.

    But, I wouldn't be the...
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    This is a favorite, no longer made. Whatever the...

    This is a favorite, no longer made. Whatever the included docs say, I urge a light line is string between trees to hold up hoods and netting that is zippered to them. Clark had the tarp hold up the...
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    A difference in weather shields: As an option...

    A difference in weather shields:

    As an option to the Tx it is independently deployable. On the NX it is a cover to the bug net.

    Clark includes a second layer on both between you can stuff what...
  35. I,ll take your money on your bed. But you won't...

    I,ll take your money on your bed. But you won't make that bet after looking up price schedules for unshielded cordage at Redden and elsewhere. Price about proportional to weight and strength within...
  36. genixia: If I could stop everyone from thinking...

    genixia: If I could stop everyone from thinking an 18" drop will result in no damage I would search for the post of someone here who dropped no further and who wound up in the hospital for treatment...
  37. The load is a function of the angle, and can be...

    The load is a function of the angle, and can be easily twice as large for a tightly hung hammock as the weight of the occupant easily. You always want a large, large, safety margin, 4 to 10 size the...
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    Yes,taken right from the maker and marketer. But,...

    Yes,taken right from the maker and marketer. But, you didn't pay enough to the adjective, "non-woven". Technically, every two or more layer bonded sheet can be called a laminate. I don,t know whether...
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    Nope. It is a film, reinforced by dyneema like...

    Nope. It is a film, reinforced by dyneema like fiber.





    There are those who can use and reuse the same sheet of aluminum foil, and those who can,t.
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    Forget about the walls. Hang from ceiling joists,...

    Forget about the walls. Hang from ceiling joists, diagonal to a corner. Count on using an adjustable ridgeline to get the right hang angle or auxiliary lines to pull the hammock ends down and...
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    ..well, the Tapalk update version isn't letting...

    ..well, the Tapalk update version isn't letting me in to complete, so....





    ....hooks at the ends of straps. Called 'bra hooks'. Or sew snaps to the ends of pairs of short elastic straps...
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    Solutions are multiple in the UQ forum. Dutch...

    Solutions are multiple in the UQ forum. Dutch hooks are the specialty items. Hundreds of millions of women rely on matched hooks at the ends of elastic s
  43. The brochure for STS (stronger than steel)...

    The brochure for STS (stronger than steel) demonstrates a new marketing thrust.

    OP will be fine, but somewhere between the 10,000 and 50,000 hang he'll be at risk of discovering shorter fatigue...
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    Sorry, on tiny screen I missed the anchoring of...

    Sorry, on tiny screen I missed the anchoring of this model.

    My point still holds regarding fabric-turning aids, and I'll buy a high shank Greist hemmer set you would not use.
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    Yes, that would work. In fact it is the same...

    Yes, that would work. In fact it is the same design as was commonplace for decades as part of the stainless steel Griest (tm) kits. (Most of these were made for low-shank sm's. Will someone here sell...
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    OP should read further in this forum on Clarks....

    OP should read further in this forum on Clarks. And elsewhere on sag angle. Flat comes with adequate sag empty, which gets transformed to flat with the body loading the hmmm with a diagonal lay....
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    Better be sure you can repair the pad...if...

    Better be sure you can repair the pad...if necessary.



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    Folks: The retail price of a Vertex-size tarp, 11...

    Folks: The retail price of a Vertex-size tarp, 11 x 10 is never less than $130 from any vendor. WB prices his current deluxe hammock , w/o tarp, @ $50 less than the Vertex.



    It is just silly to...
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    Shiny side is often so because it is calendared,...

    Shiny side is often so because it is calendared, which closes pores.That may be the difference between down proofness and the opposite.
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    inflatable floaties for kids

    The donuts that fit around the upper arms, for boyancy.
    come in pairs for $5.
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