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I was actually VERY warm with a 1.5 inch TR, and a 20 TNF bag, I left my arms out of the bag most of the night.

it only got down to about 38 degrees though, then rained the second night, cheap...

good idea on the butt pad.

ive got a 10x12 square of grey packing foam, weighs nothing, but about 3 inches thick.

its been my "seat" for a couple of years now, it lines the bottom of my pack....

I thought about that, then I remembered sleeping on this HUGE air mattress my wife bought us for car camping, its queen sized, and 14 inches tall.

we FREEZE every time we sleep on it.

I think...

thanks for the input!

Id like to test it, but its supposed to rain tonight, and im inside trying to sew my first tarp together!

If there is a chance that you guys think its warm enough, I think...

Im camping this weekend, and want to try out the new hammock I made, can I use the max thermo inside with a Z rest underneath it?

then with a 20 degree bag, will I be warm at 30 degrees?

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