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  1. You also need to consider the quality of the down...

    You also need to consider the quality of the down you will be using, and the "down proofness" of the material. The lower the FP, the more feathers, and clusters are going to find their way out of...
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    Awesome chart PapaSmurf! Got me thinking......

    Awesome chart PapaSmurf!

    Got me thinking... Anyone do a hammock with Momentum50 (.69oz/yd2) single layer?
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    I got the build started this weekend. I settled...

    I got the build started this weekend. I settled on doing normal baffles, and leaving a couple of inches open at each end to allow me to re-stuff, and re-shift down within the quilt. It was easier to...
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    Awesome! Thanks for the tips! I checked out a...

    Awesome!

    Thanks for the tips! I checked out a few tutorials on Karo stepped quilts, even found one for an under quilt.

    Looks like my plan above is slightly different. I think I'll modify it...
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    DIY Down UQ - Do I need baffle tubes?

    I get the idea behind doing baffles, and the advantage over sewn-through.

    I want to avoid having to take the 10oz down, and dividing it up into individual "fill tubes" on the UQ, possibly getting...
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    Kiwi requested some pics, so I'll post them here...

    Kiwi requested some pics, so I'll post them here for the benefit of all. Learn from my mistakes....;)
    http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/1/6/2/9/3/img_20121015_215658_thumb.jpg ...
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    Just finished making 2 of these for my scouts. We...

    Just finished making 2 of these for my scouts. We used "kid" sized bags, which translates to about 3/4 length for the boys these days.

    Remove the zipper, and fold the bag in half like it was...
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    So if it's feathers poking through and leaking...

    So if it's feathers poking through and leaking out does that mean that the FP goes up every time one escapes? :lol:

    Glad to hear that it's not just my DIY that does this, I was starting to get...
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    I vote for biners to attach the whoppie as well. ...

    I vote for biners to attach the whoppie as well.

    This past weekend I set up in the Smoky mountains for a post picnic nap. I forgot to pack my biners so for the first time since making whoppies, I...
  10. Thread: MD AT Trip

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    Did this trip in July with my son's Boy Scout...

    Did this trip in July with my son's Boy Scout troop. I got a used cuben fiber tarp (BTW, I loved it! :boggle: ) just for the trip so I could offload my son's pack a bit. 5 nights of hanging, hiking...
  11. Thread: How much down?

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    My experience with DIY is that it costs about 1/2...

    My experience with DIY is that it costs about 1/2 of buying the product. This is not counting time spent researching, building, and the worry of "getting it wrong". I love to make stuff, and it's...
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    Could be a nice variation on the turtledog stand....

    Could be a nice variation on the turtledog stand.
    You might want to go in for one of these and call it a day....
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    I agree. The 6' wide will give you better...

    I agree. The 6' wide will give you better coverage than this one, but you can use the same design.
    http://www.backwoodsdaydreamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DIYGS-UL-Asym-Tarp.jpg
    I'd just skip...
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    Yeah, I think I'm starting to get the idea. I...

    Yeah, I think I'm starting to get the idea. I have a 1.9 silnylon and a Cuben, both 4 season. I am well familiar with what proper materials will do for you (love the cuben). I'd like to be able to...
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    I'm thinking of doing this as a low cost no/sew...

    I'm thinking of doing this as a low cost no/sew (or cat cut only) tarp. I just completed a King size bed sheet tarp, but the sil treatment took two coats, and I'm not super happy with the results....
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    Great tip OneEye. I'd hate for the wife to start...

    Great tip OneEye. I'd hate for the wife to start thinking there was some sort of surprise anniversary party or something, when it's just a DIY hammock for camping:lol:
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    Tarp from a Tablecloth

    I tried the bed sheet tarp with limited success:
    Tarp from a King bed sheet

    I got hung up on the SilNylon treatment, and we settled in on the problem being a mix of low thread-count and 60/40...
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    I just made a bunch of fixed loops for Tablecloth...

    I just made a bunch of fixed loops for Tablecloth Hammocks out of 1/8" Amsteel, and it took about 40" to make a 12" loop. 12" down each side + 6" bury(x2) + 2"(x2) shrinkage.
    12+12+6+6+2+2=40"
    ...
  19. Couple points here. Mine did hold back water. I...

    Couple points here. Mine did hold back water. I filled it up with a cup or so in the sink, and it did not leak through. It did however mist quite a bit when I hit it with the sprinkler hose. A second...
  20. Rolled out about 3/4 of a batch of sil on one...

    Rolled out about 3/4 of a batch of sil on one side of the tarp, let it dry and did a water test. It held back the water, and did not mist so this was a success.

    I left it set up, and it rained...
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    This spring I did an IX top quilt 2 layers with...

    This spring I did an IX top quilt 2 layers with quilt batting poly insulation between the layers, and between my skin and the first layer of IX. I had the same problem. I was either cold, or clammy...
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    How do you identify the trees that are dead at...

    How do you identify the trees that are dead at the roots? I'm guessing there's not a lot of signs that something is wrong, depending on how long it's been in trouble.
  23. I think you are right. I used 200 Thread, which...

    I think you are right. I used 200 Thread, which seems pretty wide. I was just looking at some 1.1 nylon, and my guess is that the nylon is not going to absorb the sil mixture so much as hold it...
  24. Just finished water testing mine. It is slightly...

    Just finished water testing mine. It is slightly waterproof....

    I set up a sprinkler to have drops fall on the tarp, and let it run for about 40 minutes. What I found was 2 issues.

    The water...
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    Ok, I was doing it all wrong.... Here's the...

    Ok, I was doing it all wrong.... Here's the measurements:
    99" ridge line
    1.5" each whipped end.

    In my desire to get a flatter lay, I was going at an angle way to wide from the ridge line. Found...
  26. Mine sat out in the hot sun all day today, and it...

    Mine sat out in the hot sun all day today, and it was about 90 degrees here so it 's real dry now.

    I did a blow through test on a couple of spots, and they all seemed to let air pass through. Not...
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    I passed the tekline through the factory hem, so...

    I passed the tekline through the factory hem, so I don't think I'm loosing much. I have a 100" ridgeline. I'll take some measurements and pics tonight.
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    Diagonal, I'd guess about 30 degrees off of the...

    Diagonal, I'd guess about 30 degrees off of the ridgeline center..... Perhaps I need to shorten the ridgeline or something? I'm open to suggestions. Also, It's just wide open, no sewn in bugnet or...
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    I made up 3 of these for the kids, and I've been...

    I made up 3 of these for the kids, and I've been testing one of them this week as a full-time hang. I used the 60x126 in Sage, and it's a bit bright.

    I'm 5'8" and the 60x126 is a bit narrow for...
  30. I treated my sheet with the Sil Mixture last...

    I treated my sheet with the Sil Mixture last night. I decided not to pre-wash and dry the sheet before I treated it. There was not quite enough sil mix for my taste (10 oz sil with 1qt ms) I'd guess...
  31. I'm curious also. I'm about to do the same thing....

    I'm curious also. I'm about to do the same thing.

    The only thing I can think of is did you wash and dry the "new" sheet first? I was not going to with mine, but now I'm wondering if there is some...
  32. Thread: amsteel

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    I got mine from here:...

    I got mine from here:
    http://www.backwoodsdaydreamer.com/products-page/cord-line/
    First product on the top of the page.
  33. +Sticky! Please!

    +Sticky! Please!
  34. Great Idea! Thanks for the field test update! ...

    Great Idea! Thanks for the field test update!

    I think I'll be teaching the kids how to do one of these, rather than a tyvek tarp for the DIY hammocks they are building.

    Anyone know if there are...
  35. Got mine ordered yesterday. Thanks! Now I'm...

    Got mine ordered yesterday. Thanks!

    Now I'm crazy thinking of all the mods and methods I want to try!:lol:
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    I made one of these setups using solid metal pipe...

    I made one of these setups using solid metal pipe instead of PVC. I didn't like the way his was flexing in the video. I still need to try it out, but I'm tempted to scrap the whole thing, and go...
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    The new guides look great! Lots of good...

    The new guides look great! Lots of good information in there.

    I've used your older single sheet guides (and supplies) to make the jump from a lounging hanger, to a hammock camper. I've enjoyed...
  38. Thread: outdoor bedroom

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    I'm looking to do a week in the backyard in July,...

    I'm looking to do a week in the backyard in July, while the rest of the fam is away at summer camp. I have no trees, so I need to do a stand. I have a two pole DIY anchor system that I'd like to try,...
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    Came across this on ebay. Aspen Aerogel...

    Came across this on ebay.
    Aspen Aerogel SPACELOFT Insulation Hydrophobic Mat, Per Linear Foot, 57" Wide
    $23.75 a foot on a 57" wide roll.

    density is 0.15 g cm-3 (2.45 oz/69 g per square foot),...
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    I like getting packages in tyvek envelopes...

    I like getting packages in tyvek envelopes myself. Then I can reuse the shipping container for something useful.
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    What about a backsplice...

    What about a backsplice, or bury?

    Who can't use an eye on the end of their rope?
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    I find the money I save with DIY ends up going...

    I find the money I save with DIY ends up going into the next project.:boggle:
    The cost is also in smaller increments, so I don't have to "save up" to get my next piece of gear. The time it takes me...
  43. Thread: WTB: Cuben Tarp

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    Found: Cuben Tarp

    I'm looking for a Cuben Tarp, I need it by next Friday (June 8th Eeek!) Let me know which design it is, and where to view it on the mfg site so I can check it out.

    Thanks!

    Thanks for the great...
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    I was looking at this thread, which would do it...

    I was looking at this thread, which would do it in 4 yards:
    Diamond Tarp Review

    I was going to try it with 4 yards of Cuben Fiber, but the shorter roll width of 54" kills the coverage.:( I might...
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    Cuban Fiber has a roll width of 54". I did a test...

    Cuban Fiber has a roll width of 54". I did a test run with 3mil poly, with a base width of 54", 132" ridgeline, and 88" side tie-outs.

    The moc-Cuban did not have enough coverage for me. I'm afraid...
  46. Thread: going too far

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    You probably don't want sil-nylon for the hammock...

    You probably don't want sil-nylon for the hammock body. It does not breathe, and will make you feel clammy.

    Some other folks have passed this along: Crinkle Taffeta Tablecloths
    I have not tried...
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    Anyone try one of these in Cuben Fiber? I'm about...

    Anyone try one of these in Cuben Fiber? I'm about to go ahead and do one, but I'd like to hear from someone who loves theirs.:rolleyes: It would be for a through hike in Maryland on the AT in June,...
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    Question I have is does anyone EVER complain...

    Question I have is does anyone EVER complain about down?

    I've just ordered the materials for a down 40* TQ, and I have been quite happy with a 3 layer 35* IX for the under. You now have me...
  49. Thread: Hammock Wiki

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    I love the idea! Searching through the posts to...

    I love the idea! Searching through the posts to find that bit of information I remember reading once makes me crazy! Heck, it may even cut down on the duplicate posts here as noobs like me get up to...
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    Looks like all the quilts are out of stock at...

    Looks like all the quilts are out of stock at this point.:(
    I did pick up a clearance mummy +1 season for my ground sleeping son. These look to be much higher quality than the other bags we were...
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