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  1. Well, generally speaking when looking at...

    Well, generally speaking when looking at insulation, with all other things being equal(same material, etc.), thickness = insulation, though apparently all other are not equal with these Neoair pads,...
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    Some have screw closed caps valves, some simply...

    Some have screw closed caps valves, some simply have one way valves(best I can tell looking online) which allow air to exit, but not enter. Which brand/type did you use?
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    I have the original ( 2007? ) Climashield Yeti,...

    I have the original ( 2007? ) Climashield Yeti, to which I added a secondary, pretty easy to do. You might have to sew on a few Gros Grain or ribbon loops, then take a small loop of cord, make a...
  4. Yep that's it, thanks!

    Yep that's it, thanks!
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    If also using as a knee pillow, will the valve...

    If also using as a knee pillow, will the valve not allow the air to escape? Not if the valce van be opened and closed, but which brands have that ability? All of them?
  6. Using the Greylock on the JRB James River Bridge,...

    Using the Greylock on the JRB James River Bridge, in fetal position, my entire body is covered, from top of my head to feet. But, I would have a foot pad with me anyway for when I am on my back. You...
  7. JRB Greylock4 New style secondary suspension on JRB James River Bridge

    (as this was both hammock and UQ together, I just put it in general hammock talk)Who has used a JRB Greylock since they changed the suspension a while back, to include their version of a built in...
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    Now that is an interesting approach: just put...

    Now that is an interesting approach: just put your insulation down inside an UQP! Nice!

    Folks in CO have been a bit on the cold side last few days, from what I hear. Had a swing from near record...
  9. Thread: Speed Tips

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    Thanks, nice pic. I lost all of my slides from...

    Thanks, nice pic. I lost all of my slides from that trip many years ago. But that looks very familiar, it might be pretty close to the area where we camped and where the German guys dug their snow...
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    Is there some reason you don't want to use your...

    Is there some reason you don't want to use your UQs? Anyway, depending on the thickness of the pad, you should be good for about whatever temp you need to sleep in. Even without a sock. Pads are...
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    While it is hard for me to picture how any UQ...

    While it is hard for me to picture how any UQ could work any better than my Greylock4 and short MW3 do, I admit this is one UQ I have a real urge to put to the test. Sounds like it always works...
  12. Don't know what size your painters cloth is, but...

    Don't know what size your painters cloth is, but if big enough this would make a fun experiment(for crazy folks like me anyway): VB wrapped totally around the UQ, under the hammock. So that the...
  13. Just checked on the hammock/asym tarp set up. It...

    Just checked on the hammock/asym tarp set up. It was a pretty good line of storms for an hour or so, heavy rain, pretty windy, lightning, all of that. I was watching the set up and I could see the...
  14. Thread: Speed Tips

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    Hey Cmoulder, was that the group out of...

    Hey Cmoulder, was that the group out of Bellingham, WA? I climbed Baker with one of their guides June 87 or 88. But I also took a back country ski course with a group with a very similar name out of...
  15. Mine ( HH ) is hanging in a line of thunder...

    Mine ( HH ) is hanging in a line of thunder storms as we speak. And very poorly pitched, as I did so in a big hurry < an hour ago, the rain had already started falling as I was pitching it. I went...
  16. I have only used one in heavy rain and wind as...

    I have only used one in heavy rain and wind as part of the HH Super Shelter. In which case, stayed quite dry. And wind has never been as issue at all. But the asym tarp alone? Personally, I don't...
  17. My personal preference is to use Stephenson's...

    My personal preference is to use Stephenson's Warmlite(sp?) VB clothing with fuzzy stuff liner. This stops all body vapor/sweat other than what is exhaled, and I use a frost bib to mostly stop that....
  18. Hi Leiavoia. When you say "a trip where I tested...

    Hi Leiavoia. When you say "a trip where I tested this concept. I brought an “underquilt protector” made from a sheet of 0.7 mil painters plastic and put this over the underquilt. ", do you mean you...
  19. Pad in single layer JRB James River Bridge, not bad at all!

    A recent question that was asked: how do pads work in a single layer JRB James River Bridge. Also, I have been considering swapping pads for UQs in certain hammocks in which pads seem to be way more...
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    40 ft? Wow, that is some span, I don't think I...

    40 ft? Wow, that is some span, I don't think I have ever hung with trees over 21 ft apart, and 90% I am < 15 ft. One reason for that is the difficulty staying off the ground, regardless of what...
  21. Great report, congrats on your first solo! I well...

    Great report, congrats on your first solo! I well remember my 1st solos 35 years ago, and I bet you will remember this one for a long time too!
  22. Hope Y'all don't mind me reviving my old thread,...

    Hope Y'all don't mind me reviving my old thread, last posted to last March. We have been through a heck of a heatwave here- not so much record high temps, though a few of those in Sept and first of...
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    You guys are tough, enduring all that heat! Great...

    You guys are tough, enduring all that heat! Great to hear that the water was still flowing after such a drought. Were the creeks still flowing, or just the Sipsey River? I have seen Fall Creek come...
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    Welcome from a couple of hours straight south in...

    Welcome from a couple of hours straight south in Tupelo! Enjoy the learning curve and fun of experimenting with hammocks!
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    I finally tried a fully inflated Neoair All...

    I finally tried a fully inflated Neoair All Season 25" wide pad(as well as a 20" wide CCF TR Ridge Rest) in my single layer JRB. To my amazement, it totally stayed put. I swapped around from back to...
  26. Minus 10F, or a little less warm due to some...

    Minus 10F, or a little less warm due to some inefficiencies of trying to stack 2 quilts.
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    I also was just about to mention HH!

    I also was just about to mention HH!
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    Welcome from north east MS! You are off to a very...

    Welcome from north east MS! You are off to a very high quality start!
  29. I have always thought the same about the...

    I have always thought the same about the difference in temp rating for a pad in a hammock vs ground. But I'm not so certain anymore, although the ground can certainly be warmer than whatever cold...
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    Great thread! Some of it is indeed "we pack our...

    Great thread! Some of it is indeed "we pack our fears", AKA safety. But some of it is luxury while camping vs the most efficient hiking ability with the least wear and tear on the old body. And some...
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    Some of this sounds like the reasons some of us...

    Some of this sounds like the reasons some of us like UQPs. I have always been impressed at how weather resistant my HH Super Shelter is even with just that small diamond shaped tarp. Or, a big enough...
  32. So you used the AHE Ridge Creek and a Spindrift...

    So you used the AHE Ridge Creek and a Spindrift sock?
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    What insulation did you get?

    What insulation did you get?
  34. You lucky bastid! It's still 99F here! But...

    You lucky bastid! It's still 99F here! But significant cooling after today. We just set the high for the entire year yesterday, and tha all time record high for Oct. After a summer that never even...
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    Great video and demo! Now that I have a single...

    Great video and demo! Now that I have a single layer JRB James River, I need to experiment with a pad in it! The fellow ( 509 ? ) who did the minus 10F with a Neoair X-Therm in a single layer bridge...
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    They knew how to get comfy!

    They knew how to get comfy!
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    I have heard rumors of wet stuff that falls from...

    I have heard rumors of wet stuff that falls from the sky, but it might just be tall tales.
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    Well, people vary. But amazing that even a WBBB...

    Well, people vary. But amazing that even a WBBB pad pocket could not keep your pad under you. I did not realize a pad- in a pd pocket- could move once weight was on it. Then again, I have never...
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    Trouble is buying one. They can be quite...

    Trouble is buying one. They can be quite expensive at 375 Swiss Franck( a bit more than that in US $ ) without tarp, and they have been out of stock for quite a while. I have an older model, and it...
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  41. Now that's what I'm talking about! ENVY!

    Now that's what I'm talking about! ENVY!
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    I don't know anything about the Treem other than...

    I don't know anything about the Treem other than what I see at the link you provided.
    Since you mentioned weight, is weight important to you? If so, the JRB with suspension weighs about 647.5 gms...
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    Good luck, great hammock, but I make no claims...

    Good luck, great hammock, but I make no claims about stomach sleeping, I never do that. ( But call or e-mail DGrav at JRB, he will be happy to give you all the details you need to know) It will have...
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    I have used that quite a lot on 2 older JRB...

    I have used that quite a lot on 2 older JRB bridges, works just fine for me. Works pretty much as described. On my newest JRB James River bridge, I have just been using some dog bones it came with,...
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    EDIT previous post: I said: "Unfortunately, my...

    EDIT previous post: I said: "Unfortunately, my only winter expeience with pads- as opposed to UQs and Pea Pods, was 2 light weight pads stacked in a Speer SPE for total R value of 5.2, very toasty...
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    509-T203-KG has reported minus 10F plus some...

    509-T203-KG has reported minus 10F plus some wind chill (no tarp ) with an X-therm(maybe not much over 20 oz?) inside a single layer(no pad pocket) REI bridge, and still had not found his limit.
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  47. Ditto. Unless you are quite tall, you should be...

    Ditto. Unless you are quite tall, you should be OK in 9-10 ft hammocks, or at least I am. A lot of folks love longer hammocks for various reasons. But, the old Speer hammocks were once highly rated...
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    That does look painful! It St.Helens is an...

    That does look painful! It St.Helens is an awesome place to visit!
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    WOW! I am bringing this Zombie thread back to...

    WOW! I am bringing this Zombie thread back to life. I stumbled on it when searching for some info to add to the current thread about short vs full length UQs. I guess I had forgotten about this....
  50. It is all personal preference, and as you can see...

    It is all personal preference, and as you can see most(all?) responding so far prefer full length. And that might be what you should do.

    But as per usual, I tend to fit into the minority group. I...
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