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    The only thing worse than CBS is WBS (wet butt...

    The only thing worse than CBS is WBS (wet butt syndrome) :laugh:
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    If you want to have a more detailed discussion...

    If you want to have a more detailed discussion about lightening backpack base weight which involves a lot more than your hammock/tarp system you will need to become a donating member.

    In my...
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    lol they're doing quads these days!

    lol they're doing quads these days!
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    I've been doing the double crossover double tuck...

    I've been doing the double crossover double tuck with a good long bury for the tails with nary a problem. Then larkshead to the GE channels with the crossover part right in the middle of the bend and...
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    I'm coming up on 2 years at HF and already there...

    I'm coming up on 2 years at HF and already there have been a few of these all-in-one ideas come, and maybe go? I dunno.

    They always seem to be enthusiastic noobs who don't really have a feel for...
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    "Flat as a pancake" isn't necessarily good. I...

    "Flat as a pancake" isn't necessarily good.

    I remember all too well from my many years on the ground that I slept best when the air mat was minimally inflated so that it fit body contours as...
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    Start a thread in a topic other than "Introduce...

    Start a thread in a topic other than "Introduce Yourself" ;)
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    I was there a few years ago (Autumn 2014) and...

    I was there a few years ago (Autumn 2014) and camped at Judy Springs, then hiked up to the knob the next day. Got a lot of rain but it was still a great trip.

    You certainly picked a great area for...
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    +1 Also you can make them a lot shorter if you...

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    Also you can make them a lot shorter if you want. Most of the pre-made CLs I have seen are unnecessarily long, which means some tighter hanging spots cannot be used. Or at least not without...
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    hmmm.... Again looks like it didn't break but...

    hmmm.... Again looks like it didn't break but pulled out and, once again, maybe a bad/incorrect Brummel.
  11. In that case, simply larkshead the CL around the...

    In that case, simply larkshead the CL around the little "T" on the beetles. Hang on it for a few minutes and the CL will take a set and it probably won't come off again. Maybe some knots you can try...
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    Lightest Hammock for AT Thru Hike That there...

    Lightest Hammock for AT Thru Hike

    That there is one helluva qualifier. :)
  13. HG Wanderlust kit...

    HG Wanderlust kit is a good place to start. Dutchware has starter setups.

    An example of a UL set up would be Dutch Half-wit in Hexon 1.0 w/Kevlar tree straps using no-hardware options (< 12oz), HG...
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    Darien in MTN 1.7 (formerly Robic) or 1.6 Hyper...

    Darien in MTN 1.7 (formerly Robic) or 1.6 Hyper D.

    As a UL freakazoid I've got hammocks that are much lighter, Half-wit in Hexon 1.0 to be exact, but for something like this I'd take the 1.7 Robic...
  15. lol I'm just hoping we get a lot this winter....

    lol I'm just hoping we get a lot this winter. :cool:

    Gettin' in the mood I reckon!
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    LINK...

    LINK for recent similar incident.......... Vendor not mentioned.
  17. IIRC it was about 14F which was no problem at...

    IIRC it was about 14F which was no problem at all for the 0F Incubator. It usually doesn't get really cold when it's snowing.
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    Someone else had a similar experience recently so...

    Someone else had a similar experience recently so it seems as if there might be a bad batch of CLs "out there"!

    There are YT tutorials on how to make your own, if you're so inclined. Very easy...
  19. And it actually works... increase in usable...

    And it actually works... increase in usable volume is substantial.

    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/4/1/1/4/catskill_hang_01_small.jpg
  20. What you will likely find when setting up in the...

    What you will likely find when setting up in the rain is that you'll want to put tarp up first, attach suspension to tree, then attach hammock to suspension. So you will want the CLs to separate from...
  21. Superfly using trekking poles for side pullout....

    Superfly using trekking poles for side pullout. Some loops of shock cord and voila! :cool:

    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/4/1/1/4/suprfly_trekpole_01.jpg
    ...
  22. Interesting, it's kinda like a variation on a...

    Interesting, it's kinda like a variation on a trucker's hitch, using as it does a loop and a half hitch.

    In my admittedly limited experience nylon webbing can last a long time. I told the story...
  23. I'm experiencing this with the 1.9 kevlar. Not...

    I'm experiencing this with the 1.9 kevlar. Not nearly as hard to flatten back out as Venom but still rather annoying, so 3.3 Kevlar remains overall champ IMO.
  24. Ah OK, that helps explain it... Claytor Hitch,...

    Ah OK, that helps explain it... Claytor Hitch, which I don't think I've seen before. I thought it was a half hitch direct to CL which I would envision as being problematic. :laugh:

    Of course I...
  25. That's good to hear! When I tested them it was...

    That's good to hear!

    When I tested them it was with a bridge (bar end, actually) with a hangle of about 20 so it was pretty extreme. I'm about 170# so I'd take a WAG that the dynamic load (I...
  26. Also, just to clarify, it's a slipped half hitch...

    Also, just to clarify, it's a slipped half hitch for sure and not a slipped overhand?
  27. The beauty of the Lapp is that you don't have to...

    The beauty of the Lapp is that you don't have to feed the tail through the CL loop.

    I've never had even the tiniest bit of slip with Kevlar. It holds very well with Venom and Mule tape, but with...
  28. I also have been keeping an eye out for wear and...

    I also have been keeping an eye out for wear and haven't noticed any.

    This CL w/Lapp has about 25 nights on it, roughly 20 with 3.3 Kevlar and 5 with 1.9... I don't see anything that concerns me....
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    lol how true this is. I once had to help pull...

    lol how true this is.

    I once had to help pull a tractor with a big mowing deck out of a drainage ditch. The side of the ditch was soft and two wheels on the right side slipped off the shoulder and...
  30. Yes, lack of hang-able trees in the designated...

    Yes, lack of hang-able trees in the designated camping area. They were generally way too small. I thought I might have to camp in an unofficial area, but was able to use my and my friends' bear bag...
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    The tautline application as illustrated in the...

    The tautline application as illustrated in the photo carries a very low load.

    I just did a test by tying a tautline Amsteel-to-Amsteel, cinched and dressed it up properly, and it slipped with...
  32. In most cases the tarp will also sag a bit when...

    In most cases the tarp will also sag a bit when the hammock is occupied so most of these all-in-one setups also employ shock cord, at least on the RL and sometimes also on the guy lines.

    I fiddled...
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    I don't recall what the published weight limits...

    I don't recall what the published weight limits are but my impression is that they are plenty strong. But these UHMWPE straps all seem to bunch up and behave more like cord in actual use. I used RBTR...
  34. Maybe you can use the idea in this thread...

    Maybe you can use the idea in this thread?

    Personally, I prefer the tarp and hammock be deployed separately... otherwise it's all just too unwieldy. Plus, if it's raining it's great to be able to...
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    Nope you got it right... it's a timber hitch...

    Nope you got it right... it's a timber hitch except that the wrapping/hitching comes after tightening the RL with the back-n-forth loops around the tree.

    I used it a couple of nights — one of them...
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    Recently I tried something similar that might (or...

    Recently I tried something similar that might (or might not) work out as a good option. As per above, around the tree, over the RL and back and repeat, depending upon how much line and size of tree,...
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    It's yours!

    It's yours!
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    PM sent........

    PM sent........
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    I have a Glasgow KISS tarp, made by KC himself,...

    I have a Glasgow KISS tarp, made by KC himself, which I am not using. Immaculate construction, of course, and fewer than 7 nights used. Coyote brown in color, includes whatever guy lines I have...
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    Agreed, a spliced loop looks really spiffy and it...

    Agreed, a spliced loop looks really spiffy and it also makes cords more tangle-resistant when stored. But a loop made with a plain ol' overhand knot is quick and works fine. Bowline sometimes seems...
  41. I never had Becket slip with 3.3 Kevlar. And...

    I never had Becket slip with 3.3 Kevlar. And that's the straight-up Becket a-la-sheet bend with no back-up loop-de-loopy thing-a-ma-jiggies.

    And neither 3.3 nor 1.9 slip with the Lapp hitch, and...
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    Yes, overtightening the secondary shock cords is...

    Yes, overtightening the secondary shock cords is a common mistake, which I also made at first. It's a 'Goldilocks' thing that has to be just so. Colder weather will help you figure out if it's too...
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    lol, well when it comes to adjusting an...

    lol, well when it comes to adjusting an Incubator, if you're ever seen Shug's tutorial, that is the automatic go-to! :)
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    From the Great Shug, I found THIS...

    From the Great Shug, I found THIS to be dead bang on. I can't, and I don't think anyone else could, improve on this. :cool:
  45. Tautline and other friction knots don't work with...

    Tautline and other friction knots don't work with UHMWPE or other super slicky stuff. Something with a spectra core and polyester jacket is preferred.
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    Cut off the ends and melt. Then whip 'em, whip...

    Cut off the ends and melt.

    Then whip 'em, whip 'em real good. :cool:

    And then drip a bit of thin superglue (cyanoacrylate) on 'em.
  47. It has always been this way to a certain degree...

    It has always been this way to a certain degree but these days it does seem to be utterly rampant. If you have the patience to follow simple instructions and assemble an Ikea chest-of-drawers you are...
  48. Whoa, I dig that test rig! :cool: I would also...

    Whoa, I dig that test rig! :cool:

    I would also like to get the full story behind that 1.9 ripping in such a manner, devil being in the details and such.

    I use only knots slipped buntline or...
  49. My thinking exactly. Seems that UL makes you...

    My thinking exactly. Seems that UL makes you adopt this mindset because when you carry less each bit is truly essential.

    So the answer becomes, "Well, don't forget stuff, and use a checklist if...
  50. At last count, 42,376,552. :laugh: With 2mm...

    At last count, 42,376,552. :laugh:

    With 2mm Lawson Glowire (because it works well with friction hitches and knots, unlike Zing-it and other UHMWPE options) I can put tautlines (actually, slipped...
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