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  1. oh yeah, the ground [emoji848] Sent from my...

    oh yeah, the ground [emoji848]

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  2. as long as it's not directly over your hammock,...

    as long as it's not directly over your hammock, who cares if there's a little drip? besides, usually from a side pull, leaks will drip down the fabric, rather than drop straight down to the ground.
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  3. I never run mine over the tarp, but a lot of...

    I never run mine over the tarp, but a lot of people do.

    I normally use tree straps with Dutch beetle buckle to go from the Ridgeline loops directly to the trees, (but you can use rope, I just...
  4. To counter sag under snow load, go under

    if you want to counter sag under snow load, you want to run your Ridgeline under, and you want it as tight as possible. you also want the tarp Ridgeline tensioned separately from the Ridgeline...
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    Yeah that should work with pin holes, possibly...

    Yeah that should work with pin holes, possibly even a small slice or larger hole if you can apply a backing... could cannibalize a bit of fabric from something, clean it and the puncture site really...
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    yes, it's a Wilderness Logics (OWL logo) and if...

    yes, it's a Wilderness Logics (OWL logo) and if it's 13' it has to be an Old Man Winter, because the Bullfrog only went to 12' and Marty only worked with Silnylon, Tenacious Tape is amazing, and...
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    I've been doing this for years, though, I use...

    I've been doing this for years, though, I use Figure-8 knots
    I used to use it for my hammock suspension before I switched to straps.
    Now i only use it on my tarp
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    if there's time to change your order (probably...

    if there's time to change your order (probably not, wish I'd seen earlier) I'd recommend getting the pole mod and pole. nothing says you have to bring it, but at least you wouldn't have to buy a...
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    well, it doesn't sound like your looking for a...

    well, it doesn't sound like your looking for a HAMMOCK tarp, but here you're asking on a HAMMOCK forum, and not in the Off-topic section. Not to be a jerk, but, we have to be paying subscribers...
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    as long as you have all the kinks worked out of...

    as long as you have all the kinks worked out of your hammocking system (no leaks in the ridge-line seam; no water running down your ridge-line dripping onto your quilt; no water running down your...
  11. honestly, there's no such thing as "too long"...

    honestly, there's no such thing as "too long" when it comes to guylines. You can always coil up the excess. it just means you're bringing more than you need, and like Shug says, you find your groove...
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    technically that's the formula for every...

    technically that's the formula for every successful ad ever, even if you have to invent a problem.

    George Carlin had a bit about this
    "diapers" became: Diapers for Boys!; Diapers for Girls!...
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    i had a down pillow that I had gotten with my UGQ...

    i had a down pillow that I had gotten with my UGQ order. I used it for a long time. one day, I came back to my hammock and found the shock cord tether still attached to my hammock but the pillow was...
  14. additionally with PU coating, the coating will...

    additionally with PU coating, the coating will peel away eventually in little patches

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    make this it's own post... it's not polite to...

    make this it's own post... it's not polite to hijack an existing post, and in the end it just confuses everyone

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    I've spent a large amount of time in cheap...

    I've spent a large amount of time in cheap hammocks.

    I started with a utility tarp that I folded up into a "hammock tent". It was ok until it rained.

    That's when I got a "blue" one from...
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    finally...

    We had a little snow early on, but that is long gone and I was beginning to wonder if we were going to see anymore this year. The Adirondacks and Berkshires have had some, but not Albany.

    I LOVE...
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    i believe you're thinking of old canvas tents, I...

    i believe you're thinking of old canvas tents, I read somewhere on here that they do that...

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    thus far I've only experienced one night where I...

    thus far I've only experienced one night where I woke up to any condensation, but then this winter is still young, so there's plenty of time for mother nature to be spiteful

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    :D been there, done that... and it still leaked...

    :D been there, done that... and it still leaked after I went back and redid it, Third time was the charm though. this time, when I got my latest tarp from HG, I took it from the package and sealed...
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    agreed, you'll want a wider tarp, and you'll want...

    agreed, you'll want a wider tarp, and you'll want to suspend it higher for more room.

    I experimented a little with it, with my Old Man Winter and my gear hammock... there was a definite seesaw...
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    yeah, I'd layer the other quilt with the mummy...

    yeah, I'd layer the other quilt with the mummy bag, it really does help. I layer my 50 Summer quilts over my 0 quilts as a back up in case it goes colder, and so far. This winter I have a 30...
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    here's how I set up my doors on my WL...

    here's how I set up my doors on my WL OldManWinter. Note that they're designed to close this way, but, my WL Bulldog was not, and I learned early that this was the best way for that tarp, because it...
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    none of that is helping? Why don't you set up,...

    none of that is helping? Why don't you set up, and take a series of photos, so we can see what's going on?
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    works pretty good on my Chameleon, not sure how...

    works pretty good on my Chameleon, not sure how the design for a Raven compares. So far, no condensation/frosting issues, but I definitely notice a difference in the air movement when I open it.

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    I would wait on changing your hangle...but I...

    I would wait on changing your hangle...but I agree with not overlapping the doors if you overlap then currently.

    when you set up your tarp, the first guylines to run out should be your doors, and...
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    all but my most recent tarp are WL tarps. He...

    all but my most recent tarp are WL tarps. He customized my 13 ft OMW to have several sets of ridge-line loops so I could hang it at 11, 12, or 13 ft depending on tree spacing

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    aww R.I.P in the great Hammock in the sky...

    aww R.I.P in the great Hammock in the sky Marty... I had heard that yet

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    also, over time and use, I think the down fibers...

    also, over time and use, I think the down fibers interlock with each other, providing less loft. I just bought a 30 and it seems much more lofted than my 0

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    it's not wrong, but it's definitely not the best...

    it's not wrong, but it's definitely not the best tool for the job. essentially, when the weather is nice, the tarp doesn't doesn't matter at all, and your quilts do all the heavy lifting. In bad...
  31. been using my first SilPoly tarp for a the last...

    been using my first SilPoly tarp for a the last month, prior to that I always used SilNylon. so far it's true that it doesn't expand as much when wet, I'll have to get back about durability... good...
  32. I feel it worth mentioning that: This goes...

    I feel it worth mentioning that:

    This goes for ANY down quilt.

    the amount of loft is what determines it's insulative value.

    (it also applies to other materials too, but the thickness...
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    the only reason most people don't use square...

    the only reason most people don't use square tarps is because most commercial tarps are made rectangular, so the trick is always how to make a rectangular tarp work, because they don't have a square...
  34. I wouldn't like it overhead, as it is, the...

    I wouldn't like it overhead, as it is, the Chameleon peak shelves are annoying if I put too much in them, I couldn't imagine anything with more capacity than that. I like my gear sling to hang...
  35. it depends on the bike, a lot of bikes now, even...

    it depends on the bike, a lot of bikes now, even road bikes, are being built with larger tube sizes. I just saw a bike recently on GMBN designed with sealable access to the top tube as well as the...
  36. hmm what would i like for the shorts... I like...

    hmm what would i like for the shorts... I like the macro textures. What about various stone and bark textures? In sure there's some ladies that would go for wild flowers

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  37. of course, same as your current gear. it's a...

    of course, same as your current gear. it's a good question though, head over to RSBTR, I think I remember that they addressed it there.

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  38. also, pretty sure the two layer Chameleon design...

    also, pretty sure the two layer Chameleon design can be modified to double as a bivy

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  39. have to lock the front wheel straight though......

    have to lock the front wheel straight though... or at least lock both wheels from rolling... maybe get a dropper seat post too, set it to fully extend for hanging, and drop to ride height after you...
  40. hey maybe this will inspire you to add a lot more...

    hey maybe this will inspire you to add a lot more cycling products to the business ;)

    like making a cycling specific version of those shorts... I use them for it, but there are some design...
  41. it all depends on YOU! I used one for a few...

    it all depends on YOU! I used one for a few years. With an Asym or diamond tarp when it's raining, the only dry place to do anything is IN your hammock, or under that small triangle of space NEXT TO...
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    that said, even a utility tarp from Harbor...

    that said, even a utility tarp from Harbor Freight will get the job done if it's a few days if you're not ready to spring for the "good stuff" yet

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    As pointed out, and having been there and used a...

    As pointed out, and having been there and used a tarp that only *just* fit for quite some time: you can get by with it if you need to, but if you can afford to go bigger, then I recommend it......
  44. looks like a procedurally generated pattern, with...

    looks like a procedurally generated pattern, with a background layer and a foreground layer, possibly multiple layers, looks pretty good, but I think that the prym pattern would look more natural...
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    Welcome!! I've seen a few European hammockers...

    Welcome!!
    I've seen a few European hammockers but not often, probably due to the fact that most of us are English speaking.

    When I was a teenager, in the late 1980s, early 1990s, some family...
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    i do recommend, researching the materials used...

    i do recommend, researching the materials used and cross referencing them against DIY suggestions for thickness & temperature rating, just to be sure you'll be covered for the temps you plan to...
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    the short answer is YES, you'll be able to enjoy...

    the short answer is YES, you'll be able to enjoy 3-season camping with cheaper, synthetic, car-camping level quilts.

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    I woke up once after an afternoon nap to hear the...

    I woke up once after an afternoon nap to hear the calls of crows high up in the trees.
    As I stumbled out of the hammock to go take a leak, i heard something hit the tarp, and the leaves, and I...
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    agreed, I ordered a normal width 30 last week, I...

    agreed, I ordered a normal width 30 last week, I don't have it yet, but I regretted going wider to err on the side of caution when I bought my UGQ.

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    oh, right... thanks for putting me back on track,...

    oh, right... thanks for putting me back on track, OP is asked how much difference there was between a 0 & a 10 and the answer is:

    if the temperature is 30: 0, 10, 20 is indistinguishable...
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