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  1. OK, in that case that has been successfully used...

    OK, in that case that has been successfully used by a fair number of folks, including my son and myself. I have used it on my GE and bridge hammocks, and it has worked quit well(for me) on both the...
  2. Are you referring to a pad under your legs with a...

    Are you referring to a pad under your legs with a torso UQ? (that works great for me). Or a pad under the torso in the hammock, along with an UQ?

    At first I thought you were talking about stacking...
  3. Hi Dunbustin! I bet you are having some...

    Hi Dunbustin!

    I bet you are having some difficulty, it is not particularly easy to do. Which is why I never do it. Well, I have done it, by stretching it out length wise and folding it- if mem...
  4. OK, Bill, thanks for you thoughts!

    OK, Bill, thanks for you thoughts!
  5. Thanks, Bill. Very helpful info. "The caveat...

    Thanks, Bill. Very helpful info.

    "The caveat here is AIR PADS.
    CCF is well suited to convection loss. A down filled mat is equal to an UQ and suffers no worse than an UQ..........".

    Although...
  6. Hey JustBill, You often mention about how pads...

    Hey JustBill,
    You often mention about how pads should be rated less warm in the air, as they are not designed for convective heat loss. In this post you mention "1 season lower". Still, some of...
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    I am thinking I have more curve around my...

    I am thinking I have more curve around my shoulders in most of my gathered end hammocks than I do in my Hammock Tent 90 or in most of my bridges. I am not reading many- if any- complaints of...
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    It just occurred to me that I might be getting...

    It just occurred to me that I might be getting this thread confused with another similar thread that is active right now. This thread by Questionmike is specifically about why we don't hear much...
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    Let's not forget the OP, as we get lost in the...

    Let's not forget the OP, as we get lost in the larger discussion of pads, sweat and condensation. It is not just me and my "love"for pads and VBs. It is a bunch of people in the newer 90 degree...
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    SS, your pillow is wet every morning? WOW! That...

    SS, your pillow is wet every morning? WOW! That is impressive! I sweat like crazy, outside in any kind of warm weather, even if wearing the thinnest cotton T shirt, or no shirt at all. But I never...
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    The condensation thing can be mysterious. And it...

    The condensation thing can be mysterious. And it can also be confused with sweat, a more likely consequence when it is warmer. Keep in mind that condensation occurs on cold surfaces (or in colder air...
  12. Wow, it seems I missed this HHSS thread! And yet...

    Wow, it seems I missed this HHSS thread! And yet another that finds this about 20 oz full length system - which includes a bunch of wind and water resistance ( an UQP equiv) in it's bulk, weight and...
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    Caddis, 'Ya did great! Sounds very similar to my...

    Caddis, 'Ya did great! Sounds very similar to my first trip 12 years ago, except not as cold. Welcome to the club!
  14. Thanks, CM4, that is useful info. I don't recall...

    Thanks, CM4, that is useful info. I don't recall Shug reporting any problems on many a minus 20 test. He even goes down to about minus 40F, but I think he has a tendency to use pods for a lot of...
  15. I'm betting 90% of us have never even considered...

    I'm betting 90% of us have never even considered it a potential problem, when depending on it to keep our UQs gap free at extreme temps- whatever the exact def of extreme temp is. Do you know exactly...
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    Way back in the day, about 09, the Jacks built me...

    Way back in the day, about 09, the Jacks built me some custom bars- made and shipped for free- after a phone discussion about problems closing tarp ends due to spreader bars. Just something they made...
  17. OK, now we are getting somewhere, and that this...

    OK, now we are getting somewhere, and that this is a possible concern. It appears that about -18F things are beginning to become questionable, maybe a bit earlier. 90% of us will never see such...
  18. Near the end of my first trip to the Wind Rivers,...

    Near the end of my first trip to the Wind Rivers, about to make camp at the end of the day June 27, 1985:...
  19. My spread is about 15 ft, a 10 ft fence top rail...

    My spread is about 15 ft, a 10 ft fence top rail joined to a couple of other pieces.
    https://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah61/klinew/IMG_0149_zpssgsg7k1x.jpg
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  20. OK, sounds like you are seeing some dif but not...

    OK, sounds like you are seeing some dif but not enough to cause trouble. But maybe you would below zero F? Wish I could think of the guys name who had the trouble with the JRB tarp elastic tie outs...
  21. Well, you should know, for sure if doing any...

    Well, you should know, for sure if doing any winter camping way up there. What are the lowest temps ( in Fahrenheit? ) you have tested at?
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    Old Style Eureka Chrysalis ...

    Old Style Eureka Chrysalis

    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/2/2/9/img_3251_thumb.jpg

    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/2/2/9/img_3244_thumb.jpg
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    WOW! So Bill, is a big reason for the recessed...

    WOW! So Bill, is a big reason for the recessed bars to get a shorter RL, and thus less required distance between the trees and tarp length? Great posts!
  24. My new WB SuperShelter: WBRR, AHE RidgeCreekUQ, WB UQP/Poncho

    This is really a fantastic system. Y'all probably know I am a long time(12 years) advocate for the HH Super Shelter, the system I started with, and one which I periodically go back to just for old...
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    I agree. However, re: weather protection,...

    I agree.

    However, re: weather protection, keep in mind that it is quite possible to protect a bridge ever bit as much as a gathered, it just requires an extra trick or 2.

    The most obvious...
  26. Is the shock cord on UQs affected by extreme temperatures? Vendor opinions?

    There are a large number of UQ users at HF. In addition to the producers of UQs. So that should provide a pretty good base of experience from which to draw on.

    I have heard this alluded to once...
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    I have not tested a Greylock 3, but for years I...

    I have not tested a Greylock 3, but for years I have had a similar model- the no longer made MW3 convertible. Same rating as the GL3. I have never pushed it below 20F, but I have slept quite toasty...
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    Warbonnet makes this for the Ridgerunner Bridge,...

    Warbonnet makes this for the Ridgerunner Bridge, and I think they make some similar items for their gathered end hammocks, just look around at their site:...
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    JustBill: We share at least one trait: being...

    JustBill:
    We share at least one trait: being long winded. Many have told me that I am. And, I am. However, as a life long chronic reader, I don't mind if a good post is several paragraphs long. For...
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    I don't really know. It sounds a bit tricky,...

    I don't really know. It sounds a bit tricky, though many have come up with the right answer I'm sure.

    But, one thing to keep in mind as the summer temps continue to go up: all depends on where...
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    Are you going to have some sort of sit pad, that...

    Are you going to have some sort of sit pad, that hopefully is torso sized? Then just go without, and if it is too cold at 0400, add that pad for those last few hours.
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    Well, the choices are almost endless, aren't...

    Well, the choices are almost endless, aren't they? Several I was going to mention have already been mentioned. Wind Rivers(WY) are a fav of mine, and have already been mentioned.

    Then I was going...
  33. Great report! Looks like you got caught up in...

    Great report! Looks like you got caught up in BillyBob's addendum to Murphy's Law: i.e. Murphy was an optimist! ;)
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    We are approaching record heat for end of May/1st...

    We are approaching record heat for end of May/1st of June. Still, I see the forecast lows for the next week are from 65-70F. If I was heading out in this region, I am probably going to have to take...
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    But, you can see as a bottom line in my previous...

    But, you can see as a bottom line in my previous post, that even in normally very hot in summer MS, I have been known to need a little something for my back, before sunrise, even with no wind....
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    70-75 seems to be about the limit for many folks,...

    70-75 seems to be about the limit for many folks, but of course people vary, wind makes a big difference, as well as clothing.

    MS is mighty hot and humid most summers. I remember sleeping in a JRB...
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    I have long been a bridge hammock fan, but they...

    I have long been a bridge hammock fan, but they certainly have their pros AND cons. Actually, IMO that applies to most hammocks and insulation systems of all types- PROS AND CONS.
    Some cons:
    As...
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    Welcome from Tupelo, Mr. Phillips!

    Welcome from Tupelo, Mr. Phillips!
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    Sure. Same here. Unless my tarp can block 100% of...

    Sure. Same here. Unless my tarp can block 100% of the shifting wind so that it never touches my UQ, an UQP is going to make any UQ seem noticeably warmer.

    If you prefer, you can say it does not...
  40. Thread: polar pod

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    Speer Pea Pod and Polar Pod. Like this Pea Pod,...

    Speer Pea Pod and Polar Pod. Like this Pea Pod, but bigger(apparently no longer made):
    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/2/2/9/IMG_0844_thumb.jpg
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    OK, thanks!

    OK, thanks!
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    Re: the AHE RC used on the 90*: as an inner...

    Re: the AHE RC used on the 90*: as an inner quilt, or as a suspended outer quilt? With or without a pad in the pocket? Must work pretty good?
  43. Way to go, excellent save with no trees!

    Way to go, excellent save with no trees!
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    Another great tip from Leiavoia! Thanks!

    Another great tip from Leiavoia!

    Thanks!
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    Far as I can tell, Spike Camp at 3.6 mile in will...

    Far as I can tell, Spike Camp at 3.6 mile in will have bathrooms(out house?) and water. If not, it is still very clos to the river and other streams....
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    Are you still looking? If so, you may have...

    Are you still looking? If so, you may have noticed that for roughly 19-20 oz full length, the AHE RC is both rated at 25F and has been tested to at least 25F and plenty warm. That is an excellent...
  47. Thread: Posts

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    Yep, top brace is the key. I hung from 2x4's, 15...

    Yep, top brace is the key. I hung from 2x4's, 15 feet apart, for years, never a problem. Not sunk in the ground, but simply attached to a wooden frame. The 2x4s never had any significant flex, since...
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    My uninformed guess is that it will work just...

    My uninformed guess is that it will work just fine. Maybe better than on a gathered end, since the foot(or any other) pad works better for me in any bridge than in a gathered end. I have the original...
  49. Your bones would still be laying at the junction...

    Your bones would still be laying at the junction of Bee Branch and Sipsey! :boggle: Not a bad place for a final resting spot, I reckon!
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    Good deal! I was just about to post that exact...

    Good deal! I was just about to post that exact suggestion to you. Even using what comes stock with a HH, it pretty well ends all the problems with that suspension, doesn't it? What did you do, tie a...
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