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    Berryman Trail is about a 25 mile loop located...

    Berryman Trail is about a 25 mile loop located near Potosi MO. There are two formal campsites on the trail, and at least one back-country site.

    Whites Creek trail in southern MO is about 18 mile...
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    Why not suggest some locations and times? Where...

    Why not suggest some locations and times? Where do you normally go to hike/camp etc? I'm in east/central MO, but might be interested depending on time an availability.

    mathineer
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    For me, the biggest issue with low fill rating is...

    For me, the biggest issue with low fill rating is bulk, not weight. Lower fill power means a bulkier item and less room in the pack. Much below 600fp, and you might as well use Climashield, IMHO. ...
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    Saw the discussion on the Showers Pass socks. ...

    Saw the discussion on the Showers Pass socks. For those that use them, how do you like them? Do they really keep your feet dry? What if you wade through water over the top? What about sweaty...
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    I tried to post a couple of other pics, but they...

    I tried to post a couple of other pics, but they didn't show up for some reason.

    mathineer
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    I'll post plans (they will be a bit spontaneous)...

    I'll post plans (they will be a bit spontaneous) - others please do the same!

    I did not camp Sat night. I was worried that the established campsites in the valley would be overcrowded, based on...
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    Sorry about the rotated pic. It posted okay on...

    Sorry about the rotated pic. It posted okay on Facebook. Go figure!

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    Here is my pic of the falls. I have a few others...

    Here is my pic of the falls. I have a few others if anyone is interested.
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    I took the path less traveled to the falls by taking the south loop rather than the north Mina Sauk section. I...
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    I hope to be there by about 2:00

    I hope to be there by about 2:00
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    My clothes and hammock are treated with...

    My clothes and hammock are treated with permethrin. I haven't had a problem with ticks since I started doing that. It's been a few months (probably late summer) since I treated them, but I keep...
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    I'm in the process of making a set of 2" straps...

    I'm in the process of making a set of 2" straps with 1" webbing sewn on to make connection points every 5". I use 1" straps to my hammock with a carabiner to go around the tree (instead of a Dutch...
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    Gluten free is fine with me! (and it rhymes...

    Gluten free is fine with me! (and it rhymes too!)

    I just saw the opportunity to get in the Tom Waits joke, and I took it!

    mathineer
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    Free the glutens!

    Free the glutens!
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    Third page of this map ...

    Third page of this map

    http://www.ozarktrail.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/taum_sauk_maps.pdf

    shows the section with Taum Sauk Mountain and Mina Sauk Falls. The campground is in the...
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    Dub, The campsite (where we will be camping...

    Dub,

    The campsite (where we will be camping Friday night) and parking lot are at the TOP of the mountain. The only water source there is a small pond. On Saturday, we will be backpacking down...
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    2 lbs, 2.2 oz with stuff sack (flat bottom,...

    2 lbs, 2.2 oz with stuff sack (flat bottom, 'cause flat bottomed sacks they make the hangin' world go 'round...
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    I'd hoped to test it out tonight, but life happened instead.

    mathineer
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    All done! All that's left is to fluff it up in...

    All done! All that's left is to fluff it up in the dryer, and make a stuff sack. Oh, and to test drive it! I had to add 3 more ounces of duck down than planned. I calculated using 800fp duck down...
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    I believe the plan is to camp at Taum Sauk park...

    I believe the plan is to camp at Taum Sauk park on Friday evening, the 4th, then backpack out to around the Tollgate on Saturday, the 5th, hike out and head home on Sunday the 6th.

    I plan to head...
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    I think there are about 12 pay sites. Number 9...

    I think there are about 12 pay sites. Number 9 is my favorite! Number 9, number 9, number 9... Number 6 is my second choice. (And if a six turned out to be 9, well I don't mind...)

    I...
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    There is a large parking lot at the trailhead. ...

    There is a large parking lot at the trailhead. If we park there on day 2, there is no charge.

    As for the 2" tree strap, I have no idea when that rule came about or how diligent they are about...
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    I found it: ...

    I found it: https://mostateparks.com/page/54939/camping-rules-and-regulations

    Those are apparently general rules for all Missouri parks.

    mathineer
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    Where is that? I can't find it on the website. ...

    Where is that? I can't find it on the website.

    I have camped there many times with standard 1" tree straps.

    mathineer
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    I checked out the website for Taum Sauk. They...

    I checked out the website for Taum Sauk. They state that the group site is available for "non-profit organized youth groups". While we are definitely non-profit, I'm not sure we qualify for the...
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    I was under the impression that we had pretty...

    I was under the impression that we had pretty much settled on Taum Sauk - camp at the campground on Friday, hike out about 5 miles on Sat. down by the Toll Gate.

    If that is the case, then late...
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    Almost done, except not quite enough down in the...

    Almost done, except not quite enough down in the vertical chambers. I bought six 3oz bags of 800fp duck down from RSBTR. I used two bags in the 5 horizontal chambers at the foot end, and that...
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    I did a standing French seam on my winter tarp. ...

    I did a standing French seam on my winter tarp. I liked it and I think it turned out okay, but I did have some difficulty sewing it. At the time I had problems sewing a seam very close to the edge...
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    I'm nearing completion of a down top quilt to...

    I'm nearing completion of a down top quilt to match the under quilt I made a while back. Should take be down to about 20F, maybe 10 with hammock sock and extra clothes. I'm planning to take it for...
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    UP Insulation

    Just saw the new UP insulation, and I'm interested.

    How is this stuff in terms of stuffing? (see what I did there? :-)

    For instance, if you try to grab a handfull of down and stuff it into a...
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    3oz wouldn't be near enough for a full length UQ....

    3oz wouldn't be near enough for a full length UQ. The top quilt I'm planning will require about 18oz of 800fp down, so based on Dutch's info you'd need about 24 oz of this stuff for the same warmth...
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    Of course, it depends on dimensions, channel...

    Of course, it depends on dimensions, channel volume, etc. Dutch's website lists the approximate fill power as 625, and says it takes about 30% more than 800 fp (800/625 = 1.28).

    mathineer
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    I just saw this UP insulation. This would be a...

    I just saw this UP insulation. This would be a great way to do a practice down quilt without paying for expensive down.
    ...
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    Thanks for the comments. I'm sure you're correct...

    Thanks for the comments. I'm sure you're correct about the snaps in the hem. I'm toying with the idea of making the hem a channel which could accept shock cord and allow use as an underquilt...
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    I've done some Climashield quilts, and my sewing...

    I've done some Climashield quilts, and my sewing skills are rudimentary. It you want a first project, I suggest a hammock or stuff sacks. If you're already at that level, then I suggest you...
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    I'm familiar with the concept, and have watched...

    I'm familiar with the concept, and have watched videos on the construction. It appears to be significantly more difficult to sew, however. In addition, I don't want to be able to move the down...
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    Here is my planning sheet for the top quilt. ...

    Here is my planning sheet for the top quilt.

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    I saw this reply to the question of why Hammock...

    I saw this reply to the question of why Hammock Gear has horizontal baffles at the foot end and vertical at the head end:

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Beyond the fact that we like how it looks, the...
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    Down Top Quilt

    I'm getting ready to make my down top quilt, and have a couple of questions.

    1. Looks like a lot of commercial TQs have crossways baffles at the foot end, and lengthways baffles at the head end. ...
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    I did this earlier this year. Beautiful! I...

    I did this earlier this year. Beautiful! I found a nice spot right before the Toll Gate, (Devil's Toll Gate, that is!)

    Another option would be to camp at Taum Sauk on Friday and backpack as...
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    Meramec, Hawn, Taum Sauk, Berryman, Hazel Creek -...

    Meramec, Hawn, Taum Sauk, Berryman, Hazel Creek - any of these work for me.

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    I am. mathineer

    I am.

    mathineer
  41. Is that tarp backpackable? mathineer

    Is that tarp backpackable?

    mathineer
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    Some nice tarps and pics thereof. One happy...

    Some nice tarps and pics thereof. One happy poodle! :-)

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    Very beautiful country, and great pictures! What...

    Very beautiful country, and great pictures! What a nice family adventure!
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    I like the idea of re-purposing a bed frame into...

    I like the idea of re-purposing a bed frame into a hammock stand! :-)

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    I now have this mental image of a horde of zombie...

    I now have this mental image of a horde of zombie Girl Scouts laying waste to Kansas City. Oh, the horror!

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    I started off by stuffing my quilt into a stuff...

    I started off by stuffing my quilt into a stuff sack I already had that was larger then required. I could then twist the top to effectively reduce the volume of the stuff sack to the required...
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    After I cleaned out the Rose Feather down and...

    After I cleaned out the Rose Feather down and re-stuffed with Wilderness Logics goose/duck mix (rated at 850/800) I stuffed about 1.5 oz per chamber. The Gadget calculator called out about 1.4 oz,...
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    Finally added the shock cord and weighed in the...

    Finally added the shock cord and weighed in the stuff sack (with the quilt hangers moved over from another quilt): 24.9 oz

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    I'll be hiking/hanging/backpacking/whatever on Th...

    I'll be hiking/hanging/backpacking/whatever on Th and or Fri (7/5,6). Hazel Creek is an option, but there are lot's of great places in MO. One nice thing is that Hazel Creek has great flow, so...
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    Down top quilt design.

    Since I'm finally finishing up the down UQ, and since I'm so slow, I thought it's about time to start working on the down TQ to match the UQ. I've looked at a bunch of the cottage vendors offerings,...
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