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    Earlier I mentioned that someone mentioned...

    Earlier I mentioned that someone mentioned weighing their quilt after one night and about 30 minutes drying time. I was right, it was Cmoulder, in this thread:...
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    Thanks for that info, Shug!

    Thanks for that info, Shug!
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    Of course I might be in denial, but I did have...

    Of course I might be in denial, but I did have that condensation free(except for the quite wet frost bib) night inside a sock linked to above, at +6F. I suppose in addition to the frost bib, VB...
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    Are you asking me? Traditionally, I used them- if...

    Are you asking me? Traditionally, I used them- if at all- only for the coldest temps. But in the last few years, as I have continued experimenting, I have been pushing the upper boundaries of when I...
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    Without any question, that is true, and is...

    Without any question, that is true, and is exactly what I have always said. We agree on that, and always have. Hence my use of frost bibs(usually) inside of any sock, regardless of vent holes or...
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    Who are these people who said they were dry but...

    Who are these people who said they were dry but you observed were soaked? Any one that participates here? Because if that is the case it sounds like those folks have some issues. I'd really like to...
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    Hi SS. No denial whatsoever, and it is NOT that...

    Hi SS. No denial whatsoever, and it is NOT that I don't get condensation and sweat just like every one else. It is simply the facts and correct use of frost bibs and VBs. Wish I could camp with you...
  8. I have a question: has any one tried laying a...

    I have a question: has any one tried laying a down or synthetic parka or whatever clothing is not being worn to sleep in, between the UQ and hammock? I used to do this in both my HHSS and Speer Pea...
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    I have one! LOL! My old faithful 10+ year old JRB...

    I have one! LOL! My old faithful 10+ year old JRB 10x11 rectangular tarp got torn when a horrendous wind storm came through and took down my metal hammock stand. ( the tarp was attached to the stand,...
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    I've done it. Worked for me. Not making any...

    I've done it. Worked for me. Not making any recommendations for others, however.
  11. They will kill and eat your small animals, so be...

    They will kill and eat your small animals, so be aware of that. Small pets disappear all the time around here, with amazing frequency. I see it reported on a neighborhood web site. I'm sad to say...
  12. I think he had permission, didn't he? But some...

    I think he had permission, didn't he? But some near by neighbors saw the light on their neighbors property a 1/4 mile away and freaked. Is that right, Fancy Shoes?

    TS, only 2 left, eh? Got it. But...
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    Thanks for posting those results! I'm curious if...

    Thanks for posting those results! I'm curious if inflating more, to maybe get rid of that cold but, will maybe also decrease the comfort any? Sounds like your comfort level is fine, maybe even...
  14. Thread: Hi Y'all!

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    Yes, welcome back Kindle! Glad to hear your...

    Yes, welcome back Kindle! Glad to hear your recovery continues!
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    Hey, thanks for the kind words, ODG! I'm just...

    Hey, thanks for the kind words, ODG! I'm just seeing this for some reason. I guess it is true that I have had a more than average number of wild back country and snow adventures. Getting a little...
  16. Great video, Shug! At a balmy-5F, I guess it is...

    Great video, Shug! At a balmy-5F, I guess it is not cold enough yet to resort to a pod. You will have to wait for actual winter. ;) I like that positive talk about the JRB HS Snivler, as I have the...
  17. On your aerial view/map, which house was the one...

    On your aerial view/map, which house was the one that you scared the occupants out of?
  18. That's one of the craziest things I have ever...

    That's one of the craziest things I have ever heard. You must be one scary fellow, or at least your light is scary.
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    You and some others obviously have more problems...

    You and some others obviously have more problems with this sort of thing than Shug. Though I THINK I do remember when one of his pod tests way below zero, he did have some frost somewhere inside of...
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    I am WAY down south in MS. The skies are clear...

    I am WAY down south in MS. The skies are clear blue, the temps crisp(now up to 46 from this mornings 26) and the snow has almost, but not quite, melted. I wish we would see a good snow this year, but...
  21. FS, are you saying that they went running from...

    FS, are you saying that they went running from their house into the woods? Or from their carriage into the woods? Either way, sounds like a strange way to react. Even if scared by your light and...
  22. Just FIY: Coyotes ( only 2, not a large pack)...

    Just FIY: Coyotes ( only 2, not a large pack) killed a young lady who was day hiking solo up in Canada about 10 years back. So, maybe worth some caution, rare as such an event is. But around here,...
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    I have previously written about a time 34 years...

    I have previously written about a time 34 years when I was shivering all night, and though I knew about VB theory then, it never occured to me(or any one else on that trip) to use my rain gear close...
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    Good info there. For any one that already has...

    Good info there. For any one that already has that rain gear, or perhaps anything similar, or even was willing to buy some, it would certainly be the inexpensive way to put it to the test. Plus it...
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    Something I meant to ask you about: "I have been...

    Something I meant to ask you about: "I have been cold using the TQ when temps fall into the 20's......On Friday night I wore a fleece jacket over the VB clothing, fleece balaclava, thin liner gloves...
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    Would you believe it is in the high 30s with temp...

    Would you believe it is in the high 30s with temp dropping all day(had a high of low 40s about sun up), along with rain/sleet/snow, way down here? Nothing is going to stick though, ground's too warm.
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    I have some old threads on here testing a wet...

    I have some old threads on here testing a wet Polarguard jacket with a minimally WPB shell, and my conclusion was that it was most definitely a lot warmer than nothing even when quite wet, while...
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    UMB: sweeeeet! That sounds like a big improvement...

    UMB: sweeeeet! That sounds like a big improvement to me. Now here is what would make for even more useful info: if you had previously weighed your quilts and or measured loft the next morning, and...
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    tarp and waist area only- that is odd! If you...

    tarp and waist area only- that is odd! If you over insulated that would probably mean sweat, which would then have to wick all the way through your down and out through your DWR shell. Seems...
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    Yeah, I guess you are right about none being long...

    Yeah, I guess you are right about none being long enough, unless they can find a Christmas tree bag. I guess that is why earlier some one else had suggested putting 2 bags together. But I'm not sure...
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    I am repeating these older comments on this...

    I am repeating these older comments on this thread because I stumbled on them and just realized something: for unknown reasons, when I clicked "reply with quote" on Groundskeeper's humorous (sp?)...
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    OK then, sounds like you have been around a bit....

    OK then, sounds like you have been around a bit. So, you were cold in your TQ at 23f even using a down jacket, right? And you want to try it now at 20F with a VB, to see if you do any better? Great,...
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    Fascinating. Let me make sure I am reading you...

    Fascinating. Let me make sure I am reading you right: you are claiming you used a VB liner and you were not swimming in condensation and/or sweat? Did you have some unnoticed breathable section that...
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    Sounds like a plan. Do you have much non VB...

    Sounds like a plan. Do you have much non VB experience to compare to? What kind of insulation will you be using? Anyway, good luck and have fun!
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    Yes, your Ph.D. diploma is in the mail, you...

    Yes, your Ph.D. diploma is in the mail, you certainly seem to to have the basics figured out, though we were not able to award you Magna Cum Laude as of yet, as we can't be certain you have every...
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    "Sea to Summit Thermolite Reactor liner, which ...

    "Sea to Summit Thermolite Reactor liner, which claims to add 14 and I believe it. I was definitely warmer than the last test (28), even with the temp being 10 colder. You can really feel the...
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    Man oh man, it just shouldn't be this hard,...

    Man oh man, it just shouldn't be this hard, should it? Let me repeat what I have said so often before: I don't really have problems with any insulation system I have used, starting with HH Super...
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    Good deal! Hope you like yours as much as I like...

    Good deal! Hope you like yours as much as I like mine!
  39. It is a different company, but looks very...

    It is a different company, but looks very similar. I am very tempted to order one, because I see some possible small advantages over the Hammock Tent(HT90) that I have. Primarily weight ratings, and...
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    I have managed to stay bone dry in a HHSS with...

    I have managed to stay bone dry in a HHSS with over cover, at 6F, which works much like a sock, by using a frost bib hanging down in front of my face, and probably also contributing was the vapor...
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    Interesting! Let us know how it goes!

    Interesting! Let us know how it goes!
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    Looks good, looks warm!

    Looks good, looks warm!
  43. I think that is the one 509-T203-KG used for a...

    I think that is the one 509-T203-KG used for a minus 10F test. He might have some opinions for you.
    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/152871-10-below-on-a-pad-in-a-bridge
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    Dang it, I should have known! Another theory shot...

    Dang it, I should have known! Another theory shot to heck!






    Or maybe not! Actually, I was thinking with a tarp. And I am thinking more like an 1/8 or less, I.E. just barely contacting...
  45. Thanks, now reading in English!

    Thanks, now reading in English!
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    Thanks Bill for that link about how NeoAirs work,...

    Thanks Bill for that link about how NeoAirs work, as well as all your other info, particularly about pad use in bridges. While I have always known about going to ground when the air just ain't...
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    Major ditto on that. Seems to me the amount of...

    Major ditto on that. Seems to me the amount of insulation, in the all important head and neck area, that is lost by giving up a mummy bag's thick hood and neck collar, is greatly underrated.
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    Like Pappy said, I find that most of my...

    Like Pappy said, I find that most of my hammocks(including HH) with RLs tighten up a bit when I get in. So if I start out tight, they are guitar string tight once I am in. So I tend to hang them so...
  49. Thanks, good chart, I think I will save that to...

    Thanks, good chart, I think I will save that to go with another one I have for hammocks from Youngblood. I see the .375" Stansport Blue pad at 1.4, but I don't see the Walmart Blue 1/2" pad. Lots of...
  50. I did find this with some English captions:...

    I did find this with some English captions:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26&v=H5zSwReKU0I&feature=emb_logo
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