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  1. Beautiful! Did you stay warm?

    Beautiful! Did you stay warm?
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    Good to know!

    Good to know!
  3. Well, now, there is a thought, one I never...

    Well, now, there is a thought, one I never thought of. It might indeed be a factor. If so, a tarp close to the ground and attached to hiking poles rather than trees might be subject to less stress....
  4. WOW! :scared: TWO tarps, one DCF and the other...

    WOW! :scared: TWO tarps, one DCF and the other not, shredded on this one trip? That is wild, crazy and scary. I'm going to keep this in the back of my mind for all future trips. We are, after all,...
  5. I wondered this back at the OP: would a sil-nylon...

    I wondered this back at the OP: would a sil-nylon tarp have been any less likely to tear? Or no difference? I have read that sil-nylon is at least somewhat stronger than sil-poly.

    Snow caves have...
  6. Yep, looks to me like you were ready. With a pad...

    Yep, looks to me like you were ready. With a pad and Bivy and the near by shelter. Not to mention a near by ski area where you could get a hot hamburger to eat!

    And even a possible bail out to...
  7. Sawtooths was also my guess.

    Sawtooths was also my guess.
  8. JSH, you had a tarp destroyed also? Or you were...

    JSH, you had a tarp destroyed also? Or you were just caught in a bad storm?

    Dirtbag, yes, thanks for sharing! Along with a report from several years ago where some guys got hypothermic at a...
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    They keep telling us that - due to you know what-...

    They keep telling us that - due to you know what- recent years have been the warmest on record. And that this fall and now this Jan have been the warmest on record. But, then I think they(the local...
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    Sorry if already posted and I missed it, but is...

    Sorry if already posted and I missed it, but is height adjustable?
  11. I have. And it makes a huge difference.

    I have. And it makes a huge difference.
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    OneClick, it was 23 at my house last night,...

    OneClick, it was 23 at my house last night, colder in some surrounding areas, WAY down south! Things are upside down!
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    Lots of great advice in this thread for this very...

    Lots of great advice in this thread for this very common problem

    Though I certainly had cold butt, back and/or just over all cold both in hammocks and on the ground(over all cold in that case, or...
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    I agree. The quilt may be gaping beneath your...

    I agree. The quilt may be gaping beneath your shoulder when you change position. I have found there is a tendancy for that to happen with gathered end hammocks and UQs. What is a perfect fit when on...
  15. Gilligan, that is a beautiful spot!

    Gilligan, that is a beautiful spot!
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    One thing to keep in mind, especially when...

    One thing to keep in mind, especially when keeping the legs warm, re: condensation on pads like some folks get, and some get it real bad: Shug has always used his TR sit pad as a leg pad INSIDE the...
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    I so much agree about the personal pref thing....

    I so much agree about the personal pref thing. Especially when changing from gathered to bridge- or even just from one gathered to another gathered- and changing what you have grown used to. See, I...
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    I'll mention one, as far as I can tell so far:...

    I'll mention one, as far as I can tell so far: JRB, taken over by DGrav. I have been able to check out a couple of the products, and it appears to me to be of the same high quality. Also, customer...
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    Makes me proud! ;)

    Makes me proud! ;)
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    I just watched this video for the first time, as...

    I just watched this video for the first time, as far as I can remember. For some reason, I have no sound. But, I was totally flabbergasted at the end, when Turk is giving credit to folks who he...
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    That sort of thing is why I prefer - whether with...

    That sort of thing is why I prefer - whether with a short UQ or full length UQ- to depend on pads for my leg warmth. There has been many a gap problem reported here over the years, but seems to me...
  22. Wow! Wild and beautiful! You are right,...

    Wow! Wild and beautiful!



    You are right, hard to pick the best spot in ID!




    I would love to hang there!
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    Are you stacking quilts?

    Are you stacking quilts?
  24. Man, that looks like a great spot! And with...

    Man, that looks like a great spot! And with kayaks!
  25. Above timberline, no trees, ground cloth and pad:...

    Above timberline, no trees, ground cloth and pad:
    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/2/2/9/4034-r1-13-12a_thumb.jpg
  26. Where was your prettiest/favorite place to hang?

    I stumbled on this picture by Wildgene just now, and it took me back. I have plenty of my own pictures of this spot, but I really liked this one. In Sept 2006, I was hanging in the trees down on the...
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    I think I said that wrong. Sposed to be "butt...

    I think I said that wrong. Sposed to be "butt hurt hang" rather than "hurt butt hang". But I suppose the same thing?

    But( or however), I think I have actually participated in one or 2 butt hurt...
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    I'm sure that would be delicious, but there is...

    I'm sure that would be delicious, but there is something about that name that just sounds unpleasant to me.

    Has there been a hurt butt hang yet? I know a few folks who might go to that one.
  29. Thanks for the great report with very useful...

    Thanks for the great report with very useful info! Particularly interesting about such great results with a pad that only has a R3 rating, I believe. It sounds like you were at a minimum adequately...
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    I've read studies indicating spending too much...

    I've read studies indicating spending too much time in wet TQs can lead to a reversal of mental age.
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    Hopefully they don't assume we are a bunch of...

    Hopefully they don't assume we are a bunch of butt holes, or obsessed with same.
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    Sounds just like my raising in south GA(Blakely,...

    Sounds just like my raising in south GA(Blakely, Bainbridge and also more northerly GA locales).
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    When I read that from Cmoulder, I immediately...

    When I read that from Cmoulder, I immediately thought of Shug. Or Carl. And French Fried Taters.
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    My experience with frost bibs hanging from my RL...

    My experience with frost bibs hanging from my RL (even with everything inside a sock at 6ºF, is that it has tended to be soaked. Amazingly, even at 6F(but inside that sock) not even frost, just...
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    Though you have way more damp quilt issues than I...

    Though you have way more damp quilt issues than I have personally experienced or observed with others, especially on such short trips, and while I am surprised VBs have not solved your problem(I'm...
  36. Also, did you hear any shooting, or see any...

    Also, did you hear any shooting, or see any hunters? I wonder if any deer hunters bother with the wilderness area since they would have to drag the meat out with out a vehicle. I have some blaze...
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    Poll: Well, if you want as many options as possible ;)...

    Well, if you want as many options as possible ;) :
    https://www.jacksrbetter.com/product/jrb-12-x-10-universal-tarp/



    Length: 12 feet (3.65 m)
    Width: 9 feet, 8 inches (2.95 m)
    Make:...
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    Me too. I can not figure out where this moisture...

    Me too. I can not figure out where this moisture is coming from. The VB appears to def not be making it any worse, but also not preventing it as of the last test. If the VB is stopping his body vapor...
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    A mystery. Where is this consistent moisture...

    A mystery. Where is this consistent moisture coming from? What about your frost bib? What are you using? What about a VB frost bib, something hanging between your face and middle quilt that not only...
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    I continue to be amazed. This is a problem of...

    I continue to be amazed. This is a problem of type(middle only is damp) and extent the likes of which I've never had, with or without a VB, and you are having it repeatedly. If your VB is is keeping...
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    Yes, that certainly makes sense, thanks for...

    Yes, that certainly makes sense, thanks for catching that!

    I'm wondering about some dirt cheap(from HF) mechanics wire for wrapping the 3/4"? It's pretty thin. Too thin? 20AWG diameter, gauge I...
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    Thanks, guys!

    Thanks, guys!
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    So I assume there is a tool for this readily...

    So I assume there is a tool for this readily available at Lowes/ HD? Called pop rivet tool?
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    Hey, good idea about the JB-welded flashing! "and...

    Hey, good idea about the JB-welded flashing! "and pinned on as Jeff-oh showed in the first post...........pop riveted". I need to learn how to do that.
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    It seems to me that, even with the larger tarps...

    It seems to me that, even with the larger tarps with doors, unless pitched very close to the ground and doors closed, there will always be a potential slight breeze blowing under the UQ. Thus it...
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    Yes, and he did say it was a tight fit. Just an...

    Yes, and he did say it was a tight fit. Just an FYI. This is from the site for ordering steel tube:
    "
    Important Information about Telescoping Tube and Pipe

    It's common for our customers to...
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    What about duct tape around the 3/4" to minimize...

    What about duct tape around the 3/4" to minimize the gap? Worth fooling with? Of course, then you have the mess left from duct tape if you ever decide to remove it, or when the duct tape wears out....
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    In answer to my own question above, I found some...

    In answer to my own question above, I found some tables listing EMT specs, here is one: https://www.sizes.com/materials/conduit_EMT.htm

    This one says 1" EMT has a wall thickness of .057 and 1.163...
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    So, I take it that 1" EMT ( 1" OD, right? ) has a...

    So, I take it that 1" EMT ( 1" OD, right? ) has a less wall thickness than "I used the standard: 1" OD. / .035 wall thickness and 0.93 ID Tubing." mentioned previously? Leading to a looser fit and...
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    Ditto all that Shrewd said. And the many others...

    Ditto all that Shrewd said. And the many others also. Not sure why I'm chiming in, when the subject is pretty well covered. I get the feeling the consensus is: no you don't need one, but they sure...
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