Also--I am starting a thread to cover the emerging details about the March hike-n-hang. The standing plan is to do somewhere between 12 and 20 miles in a weekender trip. The challenge of course is to find a good loop or a linear with enables us rides back to the original trail head. There is always the option of an out and back, but I for one am less psyched about that than the others. Big loops are hard to find--the Withalacoochee being the one I am most familiar with (no hang restrictions). Wide open though to all ideas and a few from Zuki, Mad, and a few others deserve full consideration. In practical terms March is in a week, so our plans need to fall into place fast.