I have a diy HH clone a la Headchange4U with whoopies, tree straps, toggles, a 10ish x 11ish diy hex tarp out of PU ripstop and all the ridgeline and guyline what not in the bag. The measurements of the bag are 14x8x5ish and weighs 4.25lbs. That's heavy for most people on here. My tarp alone weighs 2.1lbs. I'm not an ultralighter by no means, but this weighs less than the tent I have and I've been able to get my pack weight with water and food down to about 35lbs. Hope this helps
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