Originally Posted by headchange4u
When I got up the morning after sleeping in the hammock with this setup, one of the first things I did was to try and undo the clove hitch. You are right that it does tend to seat itself very well. I tried picking it apart with my fingers to get it loose, and it worked, but I had better luck holding the line on each side of the ring, just before and after the clove hitch, and pushing the the line together and wiggling it at the same time. The CH came loose much easier that way. I know that explanation is as clear as mud so I will try and get pics of what I am talking about.
I would also like to see the pics of your method.
Two ways. The most complicated first. Do a couple of wraps around the ring.
Now double back around the standing line.
Continue the wrap a couple of more times and you're done.
The back loop around the standing end helps to keep the ring from slipping along the rope under tension. One the one hand, a ring put here this way doesn't move much when not under tension. On the other hand it doesn't slip along the rope so easily when loosened up, e.g., to adjust your ridgeline.
In my mind a better way...for my purposes with the trucker's hitch anyway, is to simply wrap the line around the ring 4 or 5 times.
It does not move under tension, and is easy to loosen and move when not under tension. Neither of these methods jam. Can't happen.
Originally Posted by Graybeard
Inexperience speaking here.
I like the simplicity of this arrangement and wonder whether it could be made even simpler with a Speer type hammock. The picture in my mind consists of:
1. Accordianate the end of the hammock as you would before tying Ed Speer's overhand knot, and clamping it temporarily with one or more large binder clips.
2. Pass the accordianated hammock end through the ring and back on itself.
3. Whip the overlap as tightly as you can for two or three inches.
Would the hammock likely slip out of the whipping? If it tended to, is there a way of making it more secure?
Here's a mod that will work. Youngblood has educated some of us on whipping the the end just by using a double sheetbend knot. That involves doubling back the folded hammock end as the larger of the two "ropes" being joined in that knot. If the other cord is short and tied closely to a ring, then that effectively does what you suggest, but without the uncertainty.