"Did you find any comfort downsides using the pad? Sweat or condensation? Obviously shoulder comfort was improved, but what about over all comfort? Any decrease? About the same, better?
Using that 20" pad, did you have much trouble with cold shoulders or any thing cold? Have you tried a CCF pad?"
As I previously stated, I prefer to sleep with the 20" wide BA pad over the UQ. The comfort for me is like night and day over just using an UQ. I would not think about laying in a JRB BMBH without a pad. I guess you could always add the UQ to your ensemble if you are a cold sleeper, but I would not want to carry the UQ in addition to the pad.
As far as cold shoulder, I still sleep in my Marmot Never Winter 30 down bag and do not experience this issue. Keep in mind, in the winter, I normally have on my long johns (both tops and bottoms) and a dry pair of wool socks. I normally have to do a 3 AM run and do not want to be too cold when I have to make this run. When I am in the sleeping bag, with my woolies and a head cap, the only thing that gets cold is my nose....but they have not made a quilt big enough for that yet.
Please keep in mind that I am trying out different systems for a thru hike in 2016 and my mindset is finding the system that will work for me on that trip. When I use the BMBH with he pad, I have it in the back of my mind, that if weather is real nasty and I have to go the shelter..., the pad and the sleeping bag go with me and I leave the hammock hanging til the morning. I essentially am prepared for both systems. And I like the BA pad because the material is a bit more substantial than the Neo-Air mattresses. I hope this will translate into a lesser chance of poking a hole in my pad should I be on the shelter floor.
On my current configuration, I have had no condensation on my back during the summer or inside my hammock between the hammock and sleeping bag (at least that I have noted). On the CCF pad, I have a short green thermarest pad that I have considered taking, but the shoulder cold issue did not warrant the bulk. Bottom line for me is...yes the pad is more comfortable than the UQ - hands down.
Last edited by fullcount; 08-10-2012 at 18:31..