Originally Posted by Bonepile
no matter how I try I can't make one of those. With 12 feet of cord to work with I end up with a mess.
Bonepile i am not a good knot tier but i do have patience. took me awhile to get it.
i do not put anything in the middle includeing the small knot as shown from hppyfnguy's great link to animated knots.allthough i have not seen it done that way and will try it next time as my monkyfist knot is allways a bit misshapen looking.
to me the important part is patiently pulling all the slack out loop by loop untill you get the knot tight.after i get it tight i cut off the tail about 1/2 inch and melt it down even with the ball.(this melting step is avoided if you follow the directions from animated knot.)