Originally Posted by hammockBlazn
I just did that. Started with a Phoenix and went with a sweet custom phincubator. Just sold that yesterday and put an order in for a custom incubator. The full length really is just a no fiddle factor quilt. I can just plop down and know I'm covered.
Hum interesting, so you still found that there was still to much fiddle factor with the phincubator, was it trying to seal it around your shoulders or seal it down by your feet? Did your feet ever get cold using the pincubator or was it your head and back side were cold?
Originally Posted by pig.slayer
Sorry I haven't had a good chance to use the phincubator in the cold weather. Its the middle of summer here down under and the temps have been around 46°C (115°F) here lately. The darn thing would fry me !!!
What I do know is the few nights I did get in it at the start of spring were some of the nicest hammock nights I have had. I still love my Phoenix 3\4 for most trips but for our colder winter stuff the phincubator will get lugged along for sure. There's just no fiddle factor with it at all on my WBBB.
Thats great to hear cause that's what I'll mainly be using it with to a WBBB
Originally Posted by rip waverly
i've been wrestling with my thoughts on the 20*F phincubator for true winter.
mine has produced reports of cold feet from 3 different users so far.
i'm at the point now that i'm rethinking the beautiful custom m50 stuff i currently have from adam to opt for a more full length solution with proper cold weather fill weight. as others have
said, when the mercury dips,,, a 0*F incubator covering past your head to beyond the feet is very efficient. -no gaps, no worries, no question.
Your phincubator has produced reports of cold feet? Interesting I thought the phincubator covered down past your feet? If that's the case maby I do want to go with the incubator...
So, Thanks for all the input so far. So I have a zero rated incubator for nights 10 and below so I'm covered for deep winter either when car camping or back packing. What I cant decide on is weather or not I want a 20 Incubator or a 20 Phincubator for those 3 Season Trips. I love my Phoenix but I am tired of my feet being cold, my pad slipping around all over the place and what I hate most is the condensation that builds up on my pad and then soaks my TQ and my Hammock where my feet and legs are. Is the Phincubator just as no fuss as the Incubator or because the Phincubator does not cover your head you still have to make sure their is a seal by the shoulders so you don't get any cold spots running down your back. I wonder what the weight different between the a 20 Incubator and a 20 Phincubator is??? Decisions, decisions,
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