Originally Posted by BillyBob58
That is hard to advise you on which one you need, all according to your needs of course. I have both ( MW3 is a convertible model).
I have slept fine using the MW4 in the high 20s and snowing, no venting needed at all. I have also done one night at 10F in it no problem. One night in the high 40s or low 50s(not sure) I woke up soaked in sweat with the MW4 and a 21 oz Golight TQ that they used to call a 20F but I think now they call it a 40F. I really could not vent it with the stock hook up on a JRB bridge without some sort of mod. But maybe with less TQ I would have been fine?
As for the MW3, it seems extremely warm to me, maybe warmer than rated, though obviously it won't be as warm as the 4.
Both are great, lofty quilts. Both are differentially cut which means less worry about having a quilt adjusted too tight and crushing loft. The suspension is different than some other models, even some JRBs. It is a simple end connected suspension, rather than the popular perimeter style. There are pros and cons to each type I think. I think the end style is less likely to develop some of the problems I read about here, such as a sag with gap developing during the night, but I sure can not prove that. I am just basing that guess on the frequency of requests for UQ help I see here at HF. I personally have used moth types of suspension with no issues. But I do have to pay more attention to my perimeter style.
Oh I forgot: I have not used either of these on my HHs (I tend to use my HH Super Shelter), only with my WBBB and mostly with my bridge hammocks. But both MWs have loops on the side which I think are designed to fit the HH tie outs. But if you have a zip mod, I don't think you will need them. Just let the UQ wrap up around you, and reach out and give it a tug if you think it needs the position adjustment.
Thanks BB - as always good advice. Here is my planned logic to incorporate the JRB Winter Set with my existing HHSS and Sierra Stealth (40F) TQ:
1. Temp < high 20s: MW4 (vent as necessary) UQ + Old Rag Mt TQ
2. High 20s < Temp < Low 40s: MW4 (vent as necessary) UQ + Sierra Stealth TQ
3. Temp > 40s: HHSS + Sierra Stealth TQ
I'm concerned that the MW3 might get cool below high 20s... and am trying to maximize range of temps without scrapping existing equipment.
Regarding the side tie-outs, I guess it would be unusual that I would need the bug net in place while in the temperature range that required the MW UQ - so maybe this is a non-issue.
You think I'm off the mark with any of this logic?