Originally Posted by FBG
... but if I want her to be responsible, she has to be knowledgeable. I can't expect her to respect something she has no experience with
That's a wonderful way of saying it. I agree completely.
Originally Posted by TN Cereal Killa
Awesome info. Thank for all the responses. As it sits now with there bag , hammock, sleeping bag diy tq , 1 500 calorie meal replacement protein bar , and clothes they are in the ball park of 9 pounds. I plan to replace their sternum buckle with a whistle one. After water they will be maxed out. And be in the 12 percent range. Now as for the wife and I .... this is where I start to over think it. Lol do I pack more medical stuff or not ? I have a small kit in my day hike bag but I was thinking for a long period of time if something were to happen I would need more supplies? I have the 4 meals of mountain house down to 4 oz. Of fuel. I have the food figured out for the most part using two super cats and two stanley kits with two imusa mugs for the kids for hot chocolate and stuff. I plan on making the boys meals first then I will start the wives and mine. As for snacks that is the same as our day hikes with trail mix , peanut butter cups and celery sticks , protein bars, jerky, and dehydrated fruit as fuel for the body. Right now we only have one water filter but I plan on getting another for the wives bag.
Is there anything you guys pack when taking the kids that you would pack if you were by yourself? I am just trying to do my home work before I get out there and learn the hard way. I am leaning toward a 58L bag for me and a 38-46L for the wife does that seem about right?
You're on the right track. Here's some specific comments on your list. These are based on my experience, HYOH.
Try swapping out the sleeping bag or clothes if you think the weight might be a concern. A small Smartwater, or 20oz Gatorade bottle is plenty for kids. Fill it up half way, and add to it from yours as needed. THis is a quick way to lighten their load.
1st aid kits can get heavy in a hurry. I carry the same one no matter if I'm solo or with kids. Carrying enough to play EMT is no replacement for being careful to start with.
Your cookkits are a place to lighten the load. Think about taking only one stove and one of the Imusa (or two stoves and both Imusa). The Stanley kits are nice, but a little heavy for bpacking. Then take Gladware bowls with cozies for everyone. This will weigh less, and the kids have mug/bowls with secure lids. Or just eat out of the bag. Antigravity gear sells them, but I made mine. http://www.antigravitygear.com/antig...d-zip-mug.html
One water filter is plenty.
Pack size seems about right. Consider a few feet of cord to lash a stuff sack of kid stuff to an adult pack if necessary.
Add some trail bait the kids are unaware of, some special treat they don't get often, that's easy to pack. The little mini candy bars are one idea. I use them after a tiresome climb, or upon getting to the destination, back to the car, etc. Our culture has issues with rewarding behavior with food, but when hiking food is an appropriate reward.
Homework is good, but don't beat a dead horse. Try it and see what works.