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    Another try at explaining Dutch quilt hooks

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    Managing the UQ is probably the most difficult task in setting up a hammock. As you move and shift position through the nigth, the UQ tends to slip side-to-side to less than optimal positions. Quilt hooks help to keep the quilt in place. The clip-on hooks are for hammocks without an integrated bugnet, and can be easily installed and removed. The sew-on hooks are for hammocks with integrated bugnets, and as the name implies, they are more permanently attached to the hammock.

    Because you have to use needle and thread to attach the sew-on hooks, I would suggest that if at all possible, try the clip-on hooks on a netless hammock first. This will give you a better idea of the best placement for the sew-on hooks on your netted hammock.

    I found that although recommended in Dutch's site, I didn't need to install all four hooks. I only have one on the shoulder side and one on the foot side, and performance has been fine. I even think that the one in the shoulder side is the only really important one, as my foot clip got disconnected for several days and I didn't notice any change. I haven't tried a setup with four hooks yet, so can't tell with real certainty if performance really improves. Maybe I'm missing something good.

    Lastly, I had to experiment a little with the clip-on hooks, as at first they kept disconnecting from the hammock. I solved the issue by clipping them to several folds of hammock fabric. But notice that even if they disconnect from the hammock, they are still securely attached to the UQ suspension, so they will not get lost easily.

    In summary, I've had good experiences with the UQ hooks, and highly recommend them. They help to keep the UQ in place, leading to warmer nights under the stars.
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    That is a really great summery. You are correct that the clip on ones can slide off if the fabric is slippery or thin. I roll the hem a time or two before I clip it and it usually corrects it. Ridgeline quilt hooks are the most important in my opinion.
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    As far as the uq clips go,I have also found that if i only have one on the shoulder side and one on the foot side with my gathered end hammock that i have the best results.
    My wife on the other hand is still having trouble getting her uq to sit right with her Riderunner bridge style hammock, i have ordered a few different style clips from Dutch to try out and see what works the best.they have not arrived yet.
    I would think the rl clips would surely work but the ridgerunner does not have a rl,, any suggestions would be apreciated.


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    I find the clip on hooks work well over a zipper as well.

    With the WBBB or XLC, the zipper terminates near the head. I use a clip on quilt hook right at the end of the zipper. The little eye on the clip on hook is enough to go over the zipper teeth and by having it at the end of the zipper, it does not interfere with zipping the bug net or over cover all the way shut.

    I have used this method for months and months of continuous outdoor sleeping in all weather conditions.

    Regarding the foot end, I have found that having the shock cord over the foot box does the trick; however, upon occasion, and in particular when temps are near zero, I also use a quilt hook to connect shock cord in an ad hoc method. Whether it be to the quilt or over the ridge line to connect either side of the quilt to cinch up the middle closer to the bottom of the hammock.

    I have found these quilt hooks to be invaluable when dialing in various setups for small groups, say like the family, kids, guests etc. . Just seems like all the gear works well enough with experienced users but when looking to ensure the comfort of new hangers or young hangers in cold temps, the Dutch Quilt Hooks give you that extra option to ensure a warm night's sleep.

    Having a half dozen or more of these Quilt Hooks on hand is a no brainer for me. I prefer the white as they are more easily located should they hit the deck.
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    Great products indeed. Losing them is my only concern with them.

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