What Parks require 2 inch straps? seems like overkill.
What Parks require 2 inch straps? seems like overkill.
^^^ This is probably the easiest solution that is physically correct. You'd need to carry more 1" strap for that loop to reach around the tree, but it means that you can use the easily available lightweight strap material. I bet you could still find some parkie unable to see past the fact that the strapping isn't 2" wide.Originally Posted by Dutch
As mentioned above, FL state parks require 'em. Link to rules.
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I have been told by Missouri park officials that 2 inch straps are preffered. If backpacking i just use my 1 in, but if car camping at a campground I have 2 foot sections of 2 inch tubular webbing from REI. The weigh 3oz, and I just run my 1 inch straps through those if anyone says anything. Works fine, but I only use them if I have to.
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I wonder how 2" polypropylene might work.
Mike
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Powhatan State Park in VA is asking we use 3" straps, now that's overkill! We're planning a service hang there and going to try and convince the Rangers 2" is sufficient. If unsuccessful, we'll need to get creative with straps.
Getting back on topic with the OP's original question: where can we buy 2" wide polyester webbing that is comparable in weight to the lightweight 1" wide polyester webbing that we commonly use for hammocking?
Most 1" webbing available from our favorite cottage suppliers weighs 6-7 grams per foot (0.21-0.25 oz/ft). For example, my 1" straps from Arrowhead weigh 0.21 oz/ft, while the Warbonnet straps that came with my WBBB weigh 0.25 oz/ft. Unfortunately, the 1" straps I bought from Strapworks weigh over 0.35 oz/ft.
What we need is 2" polyester webbing that weighs less than 0.5 oz/ft. Most 2" seatbelt webbing that I have seen weighs at least twice that much. As noted previously in this thread, Strapworks and Readystrap both offer 2" straps. Unfortunately, neither provides any information on how much these straps weigh. And given my previous experience with Strapworks, I am inclined to believe that their 2" straps are closer to 1 oz/ft.
The ultimate would be 2" wide Dyneema webbing with a breaking strength comparable to the 1" polyester webbing that we currently use (i.e., around 1,500 lbs). Dyneema webbing exists; it is commonly used for climbing slings. But climbing webbing is too narrow and is much beefier than we need. As far as I know, nobody makes a wider, lighter weight version of the Dyneema webbing used for climbing. A quick search revealed one mill that makes Dyneema webbing: www.sturgesstraps.com/dyneema/. Maybe we could convince them that there is a market for ultralight Dyneema hammock straps.
Dyneema climbing slings are usually dyneema and nylon mixed and would be too bulky. I doubt that anyone could afford to get Sturgess interested in making a short run of ultra lightweight dyneema webbing such as we would desire.
One of the Mil-T-87130 Type 11 Kevlar is our best chance for lightweight 2" straps. Type 11 Class 11 or Class 13 would be my choice for 2", both around 0.1oz per foot. The beauty of that is that they are already specified and produced for other needs, we just need someone to make the business side of it work. Type 6 Class 5 or Class 6 for 1", similar weights.
http://www.strapworks.com/Heavyweigh...ene_p/hwp2.htm
Breaking strength of 1800 pounds (maximum recommended working load 600 pounds)
So 600 pound working load limit. Maybe for some lighter people? <125lbs?
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